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David_Tepper

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Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« on: July 09, 2015, 03:28:58 PM »
Just ran across this picture on Ru Macdonald's website of flooding on TOC from just a few days ago:

http://scottishgolfpodcast.com/old-course-floods-before-2015-open-championship/

 

Mark Pavy

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 03:42:14 PM »
As he mentions...it'll drain within the hour. Somebody should do a timelapse of the water draining.

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 03:45:12 PM »
The puddles will drain for sure but you don't go from flooded to bone hard that quickly....
Adam Lawrence

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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 03:48:29 PM »
The, ehm, 'Summer' we've had so far there's no danger TOC is gonna be brown, firm or fast.

F.
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Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2015, 04:08:18 PM »
The irony is that down here in England everything is brown and rock hard
Adam Lawrence

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Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
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Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Adam Clayman

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2015, 04:21:16 PM »
Without additional moisture, the conditions would be perfectly firm, come 7 days hence.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2015, 04:23:07 PM »
You HAVE been to Scotland, right???
 ;D
F.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Clyde Johnson

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2015, 04:26:55 PM »
It's playing keen enough, but not as keen as it was in April or May!

The rough hasn't really got going, not as dense as it will probably look on the TV.

Expect scoring to be very good...weather/wind dependent as always.

Doug Siebert

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2015, 10:37:38 PM »
Certainly a year for turnaround as the US Open was parched and brown and the British Open will be nice and green!

I'm just hoping for some nice 30 mph winds to really test the players. If it is like it is all too often when they visit TOC with sun and light winds they'll eat it up. I want to see them work for it, and find some of those weird bunkers that normally only tourists find!
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archie_struthers

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 06:27:45 AM »





If it blows it helps Spieth's chances .

David_Tepper

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Mike Bowen

Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2015, 11:53:10 PM »
Ru's pictures were really cool and I agree a time lapse would be fantastic. Having never been to the old course, will the greens dry out faster than the fairways?

Matthew Essig

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2015, 12:34:01 AM »
Forecasts change, but with a few days to go, looks like wet and windy summer continues for Open.
"Good GCA should offer an interesting golfing challenge to the golfer not a difficult golfing challenge." Jon Wiggett

David_Tepper

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Niall C

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2015, 09:48:41 AM »
The most recent forecast suggests those golfers playing late on Thursday and early on Friday are going to be at a significant disadvantage weather wise.


Niall

Brent Hutto

Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2015, 10:01:18 AM »
Jordan is in the early/late group and Rickie is late/early.

David_Tepper

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Paul Gray

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2015, 06:33:58 AM »
Hence forth, in order to provide the conditions most commonly associated with each event, the Open Championship will be held in Washington whilst the U.S Open will forever be based in Scotland.  ;D

But actually, as Adam has pointed out, it's bone dry down here on the south coast. Maybe we should all head to Sandwich.  ;D
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Marc Haring

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2015, 08:27:46 AM »
Jordan is in the early/late group and Rickie is late/early.

Sorry Brent, but iv'e put money on Rickie and Jordan so they have no chance.

Brent Hutto

Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2015, 09:04:31 AM »
Jordan is in the early/late group and Rickie is late/early.

Jordan is just about to reach the status that Tiger enjoyed for well over a decade. Up until a couple of years ago my mantra was "Never, ever bet against Tiger no matter what". A win this week and Jordan is there IMO.

Sorry Brent, but iv'e put money on Rickie and Jordan so they have no chance.

David_Tepper

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2015, 12:30:16 PM »
"Could the weather gods deny Jordan Spieth a Grand Slam?"

http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2015/07/could-the-weather-gods-in-scot.html

Niall C

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2015, 11:35:09 AM »
BBCweather predicting 40 mph winds Friday and Saturday. Should be interesting !


Niall

Matthew Essig

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2015, 11:40:05 AM »
The current Open forecast.

THURSDAY: The Open Championship should begin under sunny skies. It will become cloudy in the afternoon, with a few outbreaks of light rain during the late afternoon and evening. The wind should freshen to approximately 15 mph during the middle of the day, and increase to 20 mph, with gusts up to 25 mph, in the late afternoon. The high temperature is forecast to be 61 degrees.

FRIDAY: Some heavy rain is likely during the early hours and it may linger into the start of play. It should become brighter in the morning, but with showers possible throughout the day. The wind could blow as hard as 20 mph in the morning, but it may ease in late morning. The wind should strengthen in the afternoon, gusting as high as 40 mph. There is a low risk of gusts exceeding 40 mph, particularly in the late afternoon and evening. The high temperature is expected to be 63 degrees.

SATURDAY: There could be showers throughout the day. The greatest risk of showers is during the early afternoon, when the rain could be heavy and there is a low chance of lightning. The wind is forecast to blow 20-25 mph with gusts of 30-40 mph. The wind will calm during the evening. The high temperature is scheduled to be 61 degrees.

SUNDAY: It should be a dry day with sunshine. There is a chance of rain in the evening. Wind will blow approximately 10-15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. The high temperature is forecast to be 64 degrees.
"Good GCA should offer an interesting golfing challenge to the golfer not a difficult golfing challenge." Jon Wiggett

Alex Miller

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2015, 01:44:28 PM »
As long as it blows, The Open certainly won't.

Doug Siebert

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Re: Why TOC may be on the soft side!
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2015, 10:37:47 PM »
BBCweather predicting 40 mph winds Friday and Saturday. Should be interesting !


Niall


Now that's what I'm talking about!  This promises to be the most interesting Open at TOC in my lifetime!
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