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Jerry Kluger

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Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« on: June 22, 2015, 09:18:26 AM »
There was a brief mention of it in an article in today's Global Golf Post and I was wondering if any of the superintendents are familiar with it and is it really as effective as what I've briefly read about it?

David_Tepper

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Jerry Kluger

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 09:44:07 AM »
David: Are the products that were banned the same as Poacure with a different name?

David_Tepper

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 09:46:57 AM »
Jerry -

Sorry, but I have no idea. Hopefully a super will see this thread and comment.

DT

SL_Solow

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work? New
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 09:54:34 AM »
I had the chance to observe an ongoing test conducted at North Shore CC in Illinois.  The super there, Dan Dinelli, is one of the really good guys both personally and professionally.  They have a very large practice green which was about 80% poa, 20% bent. Half the green was treated with poa cure while the other half remained as is.  After a period of time, the untreated half remained 80 poa, 20 bent.  The other half was poa free and the bent had taken over.
 
I don't have any information about its impact on fescue greens.  In my decidedly non-professional opinion, I suspect its greatest use will be to keep greens poa free via periodic (every few years)applications to new greens.  I understand it is will be quite expensive.  But it appears to be a very promising tool for those who want pure bent greens.
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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 10:06:03 AM »
As I understand it, PoaCure is still in trials phase and has not yet been approved for sale. Unless its approval has come through recently!
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SL_Solow

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 11:28:08 AM »
Not yet approved.  They are hoping for next year but who knows?

Alan FitzGerald CGCS MG

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Re: Methiozolin - Poacure - Does it really work?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 06:03:48 AM »
The article above has nothing to do with PoaCure


As mentioned it has been in the trial / pre-registration stage for seemingly forever. The trials are expensive and I haven't applied to try it yet, however I am hearing good things. Overall it seems to be a very safe control although, as mentioned, it takes time for it to work - which isn't necessarily a bad thing as there are no dead patches.


I think once it is fully launched it will be a tool to help with poa control. I think people will have to use it with caution and in conjunction with other methods as poa adapts quickly, so if some random poa plant is resistant it won't take long (in relative terms) until it manages to spread and PoaCure won't be as widespread effective.


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