At our course in The Netherlands, De Zuid Limburgse Golf & Country Club Wittem, the old Fred Hawtree greens from 1956 are being replaced by new ones designed by Caspar Grauballe from Martin Hawtree's firm. The old push-up greens were almost flat, the new ones have quite some movement. Although we didn't measure and map-out the old greens, as advocated by some architects on this site, we managed to build new, challenging greens, that are completely true to the original Fred Hawtree design style.