[Dean Stokes]

Typical in today's world to over hype everything!!!!

This is the comedy that is the funniest....unintentional. First, the use of the word everything as it applies to the context of the statement. Then, four exclamation marks.....perfect ending!

Sorry, back to the fight...

Thank you Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dean Stokes]

Anthony, the day we have a fight on the PGA Tour we know we are done as a society....is that ok Joe?

[Joe Hancock]

Sure.

I trust you took my remark with the light-heartedness it was intended.

[Dean Stokes]

Sure.

I trust you took my remark with the light-heartedness it was intended.

Very difficult to know how to take things across social media and blogs....hence exclamation marks/emoticons and the reason I very rarely add anything to the posts these days. I guess I am getting worn out with this sad world we live in......the fact that KB and his caddie can bow up to an "over 50", on a golf course, in front of television cameras confirms my fears that morals and etiquette are disappearing traits. Dean

[JLahrman]

Very difficult to know how to take things across social media and blogs....hence exclamation marks/emoticons and the reason I very rarely add anything to the posts these days. I guess I am getting worn out with this sad world we live in......the fact that KB and his caddie can bow up to an "over 50", on a golf course, in front of television cameras confirms my fears that morals and etiquette are disappearing traits. Dean

What does age have to do with anything? And one argument on Tour caught on video every ten years means that etiquette is disappearing?

Hard to tell exactly how much anyone was in the wrong, but nobody seemed to be blameless.

If MAJ came over to see exactly what was going on with the drop and make sure he understood what was going on, he's certainly entitled to do that.

If he came over with a "you're wrong and let me tell you why" approach, I'm not surprised Bradley was upset. With a rules official right there MAJ needed to be sure he was right (and it doesn't sound like he was).

Not sure why the caddie felt he needed to get involved. If he was mocking MAJ's accent, definitely not appropriate.

Telling caddie to "shut up" not too classy from the "over 50", regardless of what caddie said.

Bradley not exactly looking to mend fences on the 18th green.

But these guys are such robots that golf has become dreadfully boring to watch. Might as well liven things up a bit.

[Dean Stokes]

JL, the last thing I want is to get in a pissing match on here......i read enough of it between others I was generalizing more about society in general rather than just the PGA tour however i do remember Bubba and Elk going at it less than a decade ago I completely agree with you about the tour being boring to watch....it is nigh on impossible to watch except the majors or if Tiger or Rory is playing.
Can you imagine if the caddie involved was Steve Williams? we may have seen this on Fox and MSNBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JLahrman]

JL, the last thing I want is to get in a pissing match on here......i read enough of it between others I was generalizing more about society in general rather than just the PGA tour however i do remember Bubba and Elk going at it less than a decade ago I completely agree with you about the tour being boring to watch....it is nigh on impossible to watch except the majors or if Tiger or Rory is playing.
Can you imagine if the caddie involved was Steve Williams? we may have seen this on Fox and MSNBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha, I was going to asterisk my comment with "one argument every 10 years (that didn't involve Steve Elkington).

The Sabatini-Crane smackdown was 2005, that's the last real one I can remember.

Suffice it to say that the MAJ-Bradley video is the only bit of the match play I've watched this week.

Face-to-face manners are better than ever in my opinion. Less formal but more pleasant. It's the internet where manners are poor. This website is actually one of the higher water marks of sites I visit.

[Dean Stokes]

JL, the last thing I want is to get in a pissing match on here......i read enough of it between others I was generalizing more about society in general rather than just the PGA tour however i do remember Bubba and Elk going at it less than a decade ago I completely agree with you about the tour being boring to watch....it is nigh on impossible to watch except the majors or if Tiger or Rory is playing.
Can you imagine if the caddie involved was Steve Williams? we may have seen this on Fox and MSNBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha, I was going to asterisk my comment with "one argument every 10 years (that didn't involve Steve Elkington).

The Sabatini-Crane smackdown was 2005, that's the last real one I can remember.

Suffice it to say that the MAJ-Bradley video is the only bit of the match play I've watched this week.

Face-to-face manners are better than ever in my opinion. Less formal but more pleasant. It's the internet where manners are poor. This website is actually one of the higher water marks of sites I visit.

Somebody gave me some great advice which I try to uphold on the internet.....don't type anything that you wouldn't say to someone's face if they were stood next to you at the bar.

[Anthony Butler]

Johnny Miller, who couldn't take Keegan Bradley's dog in a fight, is on NBC talkin' tough about what he would have done with MAJ in that situation..

Jesus Christ.. Johnny, keep going like that, and we'll have to get you a flight suit and an aircraft carrier..

[Tom ORourke]

Everyone was wrong on this one. Morning Drive showed some old Ryder Cup disputes, all with Seve, and Charlie Rhymer asked, "what is the common point in these?" My feeling on the common point was that no caddies were involved in the discussions. A caddie has no cause to be involved in a discussion between two players, especially with a rules official there, even though the official said the least of the 4 guys and he should be the only guy talking. MJ should have talked to the official, gotten an answer, and then left. A simple explanation of the drop should have sufficed.

[mike_beene]

Can you imagine having to caddy for K. Bradley with all the fidgets. Making Player and caddie stick together is punishment enough for both.If Bradley is an honorable guy he hides it well.

[jeffwarne]

A caddie has no cause to be involved in a discussion between two players, especially with a rules official there, even though the official said the least of the 4 guys and he should be the only guy talking. MJ should have talked to the official, gotten an answer, and then left. A simple explanation of the drop should have sufficed.

The official never took the radio from his ear.
He did not APPEAR to be in control at all(looked like he was phoning a friend), which no doubt fueled/prolonged the situation.
The caddie? don't even get me started.
Sad that in a world where four letter profanity is an accepted way of communicating amongst many, that the words "shut up"(to someone who shouldn't be involved in the first place) would cause someone to bow up on a fellow (senior) player.
It's just too bad his tool-time buddy Phil wasn't there to comment on the situation

[Thomas Dai]

Isn't there a tale about Bernard Darwin punching an opponent after a match?
Atb

[Wade Whitehead]

Why is Bradley's caddy even talking to anyone but his player?

Bradley's total lack of class on the eighteenth green was disappointing but, unfortunately, not surprising.

WW

[Anthony Butler]

I've been communicating on this topic with Bob Harig who is ESPN's main golf writer.

Apparently where we saw Keegan Bradley's ball resting on the cart path was in fact his second drop from the TIO, which consisted of a trailer and a fence around the trailer.

According to Harig, the local rule for the week was any ball that went over the fence was entitled to a free drop. Bradley's ball came to rest in a spot near the fence not the trailer. The local rule however treated the fence like a line around a lateral hazard except, instead of a penalty drop you get a free drop, taken from the point where it crossed the fence.

MAJ was questioning whether the rule was being applied correctly. Since Bradley originally took relief as if the fence itself was a TIO, there was understandably some confusion over what is an odd local rule. He was quizzing the official about why the drop was happening in that fashion when Bradley told him to butt out.. The Australasian Tour Official even though he had a copy of the local rule on him was so surprised by the interpretation as written he was calling the head office to make sure he had it right... (this may have involved also which side of the fence it eventually come to rest on.. which would only be relevant if it had not already crossed the fence earlier according to the local rule)

Harig's best guess is that Bradley went off because he had 'allowed' Jimenez to get his free drop on a previous hole without inserting him into the process. Since that took a while, I guess there was some questions about the correct interpretation of that ruling... MAJ did proceed correctly in that circumstance.... As indeed did Bradley once he put his ball in play.. Although as someone else pointed out, once a Tour player proceeds under the direction of the tour official onsite, they are protected against a later penalty.

Not that they all escalate into this incident, but these local rules with so many structures on the course, seem to cause regular confusion at PGA Tour events... particularly when playing partners are direct competitors.

[Brent Hutto]

I didn't see the match in question as I quit watching when I noticed they were putting little flags by the player's names to play up the "us against them" stuff (what's the over/under for the number of years before this event becomes teams "representing" countries).

But from other tournaments I've seen on TV Miguel Angel Jimenez is *constantly* offering advice and commentary, usually unsolicited and unwanted, to other players and to officials regarding the Rules. MAJ butts in with his two cents worth on every ruling he sees, just like Keegan twitches around like a hooked fish on the floor of a boat before every shot. Hard to believe at this juncture either of them would take exception to the other's "thing".

[Bill_McBride]

I've been communicating on this topic with Bob Harig who is ESPN's main golf writer.

Apparently where we saw Keegan Bradley's ball resting on the cart path was in fact his second drop from the TIO, which consisted of a trailer and a fence around the trailer.

According to Harig, the local rule for the week was any ball that went over the fence was entitled to a free drop. Bradley's ball came to rest in a spot near the fence not the trailer. The local rule however treated the fence like a line around a lateral hazard except, instead of a penalty drop you get a free drop, taken from the point where it crossed the fence.

MAJ was questioning whether the rule was being applied correctly. Since Bradley originally took relief as if the fence itself was a TIO, there was understandably some confusion over what is an odd local rule. He was quizzing the official about why the drop was happening in that fashion when Bradley told him to butt out.. The Australasian Tour Official even though he had a copy of the local rule on him was so surprised by the interpretation as written he was calling the head office to make sure he had it right...

Harig's best guess is that Bradley went off because he had 'allowed' Jimenez to get his free drop on a previous hole without inserting him into the process. Since that took a while, I guess there was some questions about the correct interpretation of that ruling... MAJ did proceed correctly in that circumstance as well.

Not that they all escalate into this incident, but these local rules with so many structures on the course, seem to cause regular confusion at PGA Tour events... particularly when playing partners are direct competitors.

Your last is most likely the biggest reason for the blow up.  These guys are used to being fellow competitors.  Head to head match play is different, every hole is vital. 

[Anthony Butler]

I've been communicating on this topic with Bob Harig who is ESPN's main golf writer.

Apparently where we saw Keegan Bradley's ball resting on the cart path was in fact his second drop from the TIO, which consisted of a trailer and a fence around the trailer.

According to Harig, the local rule for the week was any ball that went over the fence was entitled to a free drop. Bradley's ball came to rest in a spot near the fence not the trailer. The local rule however treated the fence like a line around a lateral hazard except, instead of a penalty drop you get a free drop, taken from the point where it crossed the fence.

MAJ was questioning whether the rule was being applied correctly. Since Bradley originally took relief as if the fence itself was a TIO, there was understandably some confusion over what is an odd local rule. He was quizzing the official about why the drop was happening in that fashion when Bradley told him to butt out.. The Australasian Tour Official even though he had a copy of the local rule on him was so surprised by the interpretation as written he was calling the head office to make sure he had it right...

Harig's best guess is that Bradley went off because he had 'allowed' Jimenez to get his free drop on a previous hole without inserting him into the process. Since that took a while, I guess there was some questions about the correct interpretation of that ruling... MAJ did proceed correctly in that circumstance as well.

Not that they all escalate into this incident, but these local rules with so many structures on the course, seem to cause regular confusion at PGA Tour events... particularly when playing partners are direct competitors.

Your last is most likely the biggest reason for the blow up.  These guys are used to being fellow competitors.  Head to head match play is different, every hole is vital.  

Bradley's comments made yesterday at the Players Championship were definitely odd.. He says he got 'played by the ultimate gamer'. That's almost enough reason to make MAJ a captain's pick if Bradley somehow pulls his head out of his a__ and makes the next Ryder Cup team..

Clarke would definitely want him onsite as a vice-captain.  

[Brent Hutto]

The only thing being "played" on Keegan Bradley is whatever mind-jobs he "plays" on his own damn self. What a basket case, it's amazing someone like that can make tens of millions of dollars playing golf in public with as much baggage as he carries around.

[Anthony Butler]

The only thing being "played" on Keegan Bradley is whatever mind-jobs he "plays" on his own damn self. What a basket case, it's amazing someone like that can make tens of millions of dollars playing golf in public with as much baggage as he carries around.

+1 Brett. Auntie Pat needs to sit him down for a nice chat on how to be a professional.

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