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archie_struthers

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Williams Country Club
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:09:00 PM »


Anybody know anything about Williams CC on the border of Ohio West Virginia . . Just got a shout out for a friend inquiring about it ?

Billsteele

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2015, 08:47:53 PM »
Williams Country Club is a terrific golf course. Dean DiBerardino, the head professional, used to post on this board. I am sure that Chris Sturges has played there since he is a good friend of Dean. The property has great natural movement and the routing is solid. The club is set on a hillside above the Ohio River. It is not overly long but has a nice variety of holes. One minor criticism is that, other than the first green, there is not a lot of movement on the putting surfaces. However, it is definitely worth a play. I need to try to get back there in the near future.

C. Sturges

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »
Archie,

I agree with everything Bill said.  I would play there any time I was invited.  It is a great piece of property with a wonderful mix of holes.  With it being on top of a hill, there is some really good elevation change.  The course is also in great shape.  As Bill mentioned the greens are pretty flat, and they are very large.  I do not know this for sure, but I would guess the greens were built large and flattish because of membership new to the game of golf? 

I can not remember for sure, but the course was originally built for a steel company?  It was also built by one of Oakmont Country Club's superintendent.

Maybe Dean will see this and give us more insight to the course and its history.
chris

Nigel Islam

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 12:14:50 PM »
Archie,

I agree with everything Bill said.  I would play there any time I was invited.  It is a great piece of property with a wonderful mix of holes.  With it being on top of a hill, there is some really good elevation change.  The course is also in great shape.  As Bill mentioned the greens are pretty flat, and they are very large.  I do not know this for sure, but I would guess the greens were built large and flattish because of membership new to the game of golf? 

I can not remember for sure, but the course was originally built for a steel company?  It was also built by one of Oakmont Country Club's superintendent.

Maybe Dean will see this and give us more insight to the course and its history.
chris

Emil Loeffler, the Mick Morcom of Oakmont. Seems like an interesting place.

Chris_Blakely

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 12:41:19 PM »
Yes, Williams County CC was designed by Emil Loeffler/John McGlynn.  It is one of the few courses by them I have not played - but wanted to.

Chris


Chris_Blakely

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archie_struthers

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2015, 05:02:39 PM »


He might , he's quite a character !   Just asked me about the golf course .

Steve Wilson

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2015, 10:20:36 AM »
The $1.4 price tag has to be crazy low for this property, especially if the mineral rights are attached.  The potential exists for exploiting the minerals beneath the surface via horizontal drilling without even disturbing the surface.  Leasing rights for oil and gas in the Marcellus have been going for as high as $7000 an acre.  Do the math ($1,225,000) and that's just for the rights to drill and says nothing about the potential income from the product.  The $7000 is of course a high ball number, but it is also just for the Marcellus layer and there are the Utica and Trenton Black River layers beneath the Marcellus.  It's my understanding that the rights to these layers are negotiated separately by those in the know.  It's also my understanding that the property hasn't been managed well and that it could easily be a going enterprise if it were operated with a concentration on the golf and attracting additional members at lower fees and also tapping the semi-private market.

There's a very nice clubhouse attached and also a private residence that could be transformed into a lodge for groups of golfers who wanted to stay and play.

So, if there's anyone out there with some spare cash laying around that would like a top notch golf course as a personal plaything with the potential of an oil and gas bonanza you might want to do some due diligence and look into it.  For that matter, maybe this discussion group should pony up the change to purchase Williams as a laboratory for golf research.  It's close by (less than an hour)  Pittsburgh Airport and would be if made public or semi private one of the best and perhaps the best accessible course in the area.

It would be said to see this superb facility go the way of NLE especially in an area that is not replete with quality golf.
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Steve Wilson

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Re: Williams Country Club
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2015, 04:51:33 PM »
Latest developments are good news bad news.

The good news is that the deal fell through for a buyer to purchase this property from the credit union.
Bad news is the credit union foreclosed and the property will be auctioned to the highest bidder on the courthouse steps in New Cumberland West Virginia. Date for the sale is April 13. 

Anyone have an IRA they want to cash out for their own golf course.  Does the ghost of C. B. MacDonald live on GCA?
Some days you play golf, some days you find things.

I'm not really registered, but I couldn't find a symbol for certifiable.

"Every good drive by a high handicapper will be punished..."  Garland Bailey at the BUDA in sharing with me what the better player should always remember.