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Joe Bausch

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2015, 08:44:26 AM »
Some great photos are found in the programs for the tourneys being mentioned, and they are available on the Tillinghast Association web site:

http://www.tillinghast.net/Tillinghast/National_Champ%5B.html
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2015, 07:58:45 PM »
Another set, this time Bobby Jones at Merion (Golf Illustrated, Nov. 1930)











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Pete Blaisdell

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2015, 07:32:29 AM »
Wow, great thread and some very informative  posts. I must have spent two hours going through it. Love the shot by shot descriptions and photos and overlays. I seem to remember that the starting time for the playoff was delayed so Espinosa could attend Sunday Mass. This was at Mr. Jones request. Very classy.
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2015, 11:06:36 PM »
Quote from: Jim_Kennedy on February 08, 2015, 08:22:37 PM


Holes 1-6

 

The fairway width is striking, but how about all the squared off greens?
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2015, 11:29:12 PM »
Bill,
Wow - really - and not just from the approach.
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2015, 08:27:14 PM »
I never knew that Tilly built squared off greens until Ridgewood hired Gil Hanse and he started restoring some of the greens in that fashion. Very cool to see Winged Foot so early in its history.
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V. Kmetz

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2015, 03:34:30 AM »
Hi,

Near-original green margin recoveries were GH's first efforts on the East in 2010. Many of the East green margins had decayed into a "tear drop" figure with a narrowed opening (3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 18 were most "restored," but most others received some level of recovery and all were squared off).

Compare these two photos to show one dramatic instance (#18E). Sorry for the crudely drawn overlays

The first shows the current version of the green, with the decayed pre-2010 margins in red:


The second shows the green in 2007, with the 2010 recovery drawn in that same red


It is rumored that the West will undergo a similar treatment between 2016 and 2020

cheers

vk
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2015, 08:16:10 PM »
One more set, this time Bobby Jones' record 3rd Round at the 1930 U.S. Open at Interlachen (Golf Illustrated Aug. 1930) -











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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2015, 08:19:40 PM »
An Aug. 1930 Golf Illustrated article describing the Interlachen course:










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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2015, 08:23:59 PM »
A routing map of Interlachen from 1930 -



A shot of the 9th hole where Jones ricocheted a shot across the water -



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Bill Brightly

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open New
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2015, 10:18:40 PM »
Quote from: V. Kmetz on February 21, 2015, 03:34:30 AM
Hi,

Near-original green margin recoveries were GH's first efforts on the East in 2010. Many of the East green margins had decayed into a "tear drop" figure with a narrowed opening (3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 18 were most "restored," but most others received some level of recovery and all were squared off).

Compare these two photos to show one dramatic instance (#18E). Sorry for the crudely drawn overlays

The first shows the current version of the green, with the decayed pre-2010 margins in red:


The second shows the green in 2007, with the 2010 recovery drawn in that same red


It is rumored that the West will undergo a similar treatment between 2016 and 2020

cheers

vk

VK, thanks for posting this. Truly amazing transformation. Can we assume the members like the look of the restored East greens? I ask because it is such a "different" look from what most people think are "normal" greens.
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V. Kmetz

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Re: Winged Foot -1929 US Open
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2015, 12:41:45 AM »
Hi Bill,

Your assumptions are spot-on.

"Electrifying" is the word I would use when these were first observed in the 2010 season...like when an intelligent guy is struck by lightning and all of the sudden can now do particle physics, and doesn't miss any free throws.

It's just my idle speculation, but I think the success of this first Hanse effort, was the impetus towards executing the full multi-phase Master Plan of which the on-going East restoration has been the first central chunk (along with tertiary total campus upgrades).

This course, more than ever, needs to be seen, as it is an absolute pleasure to play from one's correct teeing color.  It is truly "the pretty girl you marry," as opposed to the West, which is the smoky ol' cocktail waitress you want to bang.

cheers

vk
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