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Ryan Taylor

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2016, 06:00:46 PM »
Who gets the call for the fourth and final course at SS?
"Bandon is like Chamonix for skiers or the North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is where those who really care end up."

Tom_Doak

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2016, 06:18:18 PM »
Based just on the yardages, I count nine holes (the five par 5s, plus 2, 6, 14 and 15) from the Black tees where I'm thinking I'll have a short iron or wedge approach, and I'm not a super-long hitter. The course isn't going to play nearly as long as the total yardage because so much of it is tied up in par fives.


That's the nature of a course with extra par-5's, if you assume you're not going for those greens in two.  Black Forest has the same effect, with a bunch of short par-4's and a short par-3 to boot, yet the course still kicks most people's butts.  Half the courses I saw last week on Tenerife had five or six par-5 holes, so it must be a proven resort-friendly option.

Jim Nugent

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2016, 06:33:54 PM »
Another somewhat unusual feature of the new course: it opens and closes with par 5s. 

JJShanley

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2016, 06:39:14 PM »
Wyncote (Oxford, PA) has that as well, but with 5s to open and close each nine as well.  I don't think I like that level of symmetry, although I do like that course.

Jason Way

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2016, 06:49:22 PM »
Thanks for sharing the map, Howard.


Does anyone know, does Streamsong have plans to add a putting course as well?
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Matthew Essig

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2016, 06:59:31 PM »
Where we are currently, I think its fairly bold to build a course with only 3 one holes.  Now a days i think it would be much easier to sell a course with  six par 3s than three par 3s, and Streamsong and Richard Mack deserve a lot of credit.

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There are four par 3s (5, 7, 15, 17) on the map
« Last Edit: January 25, 2016, 07:03:02 PM by Matthew Essig »
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Howard Riefs

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Mark Fedeli

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2017, 02:07:42 PM »
Preview from Brad Klein:


http://golfweek.com/2017/01/27/streamsongs-newest-course-takes-up-plenty-of-wide-open-space/


"There’s also a clever six-hole short course Hanse completed and a Himalayas-style putting course."



Talk about burying the lede. I'm sure I'm late to the party but I had no idea a short course and putting course were happening. Great news.
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Ian Andrew

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2017, 03:39:46 PM »

Who gets the call for the fourth and final course at SS?


I expect that will end up being a par three course on the land close to the Hotel.
I think you can assume its one of the three who already did work there.


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Mark Fedeli

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2017, 04:13:38 PM »

Who gets the call for the fourth and final course at SS?


I expect that will end up being a par three course on the land close to the Hotel.
I think you can assume its one of the three who already did work there.


My2C


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Ryan Taylor

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2017, 11:44:32 AM »
KEEP HOPE ALIVE: https://trademarks.justia.com/864/81/the-lido-at-86481901.html

Nice find! Thanks for sharing link.
"Bandon is like Chamonix for skiers or the North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is where those who really care end up."

Jim Nugent

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2017, 11:19:04 PM »
How closely could they replicate the original Lido at Streamsong, if that's what they want to do?  Also I wonder which architect could do the best job of that. 

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2017, 06:23:36 AM »

Preview from Brad Klein:


http://golfweek.com/2017/01/27/streamsongs-newest-course-takes-up-plenty-of-wide-open-space/


Reading the article, I see that they grassed fwys with Celebration. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the Red and Blue grassed with 419?
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Mark Fedeli

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2017, 12:35:51 PM »
How closely could they replicate the original Lido at Streamsong, if that's what they want to do?  Also I wonder which architect could do the best job of that.


Great discussion about it here: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,60459.0.html
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2017, 10:47:02 AM »
Matt Ginella with an article about the course:


http://nationalcargolf.com/a-deeper-dive-into-streamsong-black/
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2017, 11:51:10 AM »
“It’s our most important new course to date,” says Hanse. “

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2017, 03:20:02 AM »
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 03:22:02 AM by Michael Whitaker »
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2017, 02:20:33 PM »
Streamsong Black, which officially opens on the 29th, had its media day yesterday. Some recent and resulting media coverage…
 
 
Golf Channel
Matt Ginella on Streamsong Black: 'Big, bold, fun'
http://www.golfchannel.com/video/ginella-streamsong-black-big-bold-fun/
 
Golf Advisor
Gil Hanse's long-awaited Black Course at Streamsong Resort debuts
http://www.golfadvisor.com/articles/streamsong-black-course-opens-16558.htm
 
Links Magazine
Streamsong Resort Opens New Black Course
https://www.linksmagazine.com/streamsong-black-now-open/
 
Golf Digest
Streamsong’s Third Layout, Gil Hanse’s Black
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/streamsongs-third-layout-gil-hanses-black
 
The Ledger
Streamsong Black to provide a new challenge for golfers in Polk
http://www.theledger.com/sports/20170925/streamsong-black-to-provide-new-challenge-for-golfers-in-polk
 
Golf.com
Gil Hanse Q&A
http://www.golf.com/courses-and-travel/2017/09/11/all-over-map-qa-golfs-it-designer
 
Golf Course Industry Magazine
Streamsong Resort debuts third course
http://www.golfcourseindustry.com/article/streamsong-black-hanse/
 
Golf.com
Streamsong Black from the Air
http://www.golf.com/tour-news/video/2017/09/26/streamsong-black-air
 
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Josh Tarble

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Re: Hanse announced as architect for new course at Streamsong
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2017, 03:14:19 PM »
Howard,


Thanks for posting...I just wanted to call attention to your last article.  That "Streamsong Black from the Air" is one of the worst fly-by videos I've ever seen.  About gave me a seizure there was so much skipping around.  Wow! So bad I had to post about it.


The course looks really cool though. Should be a fantastic additional to the resort.  Can't wait to get down there to check it out in person.


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