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Scott Weersing

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Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:59:46 PM »


If the 2021 US Open is at Torrey Pines, and this was agreed upon back in March 2014. And if the 2023 US Open is at LACC, no contract just yet, then which course is in the running for the 2022 US Open?

It would seem to be on the East Coast after the 2020 US Open at Winged Foot and the 2018 US Open at Shinnecock.

Here are some contenders:

1. Pinehurst No. 2, it would be 8 years since the last one in 2014
2. Merion GC, it would be 9 years since they hosted in 2013.
3. Oakland Hills, it hosts the US Amateur in 2017, but not really on the east coast
4. Ferry Point, it would be a long shot as it would be the third one in the state of New York, but who can predict where the USGA would go next.

Where do you think they should play the 2022 US Open?

BHoover

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2015, 10:09:24 PM »
I'd like to see the Open return to Oakland Hills, but I think Pinehurst is more likely.

JR Potts

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2015, 11:15:02 PM »
Don't rule out Medinah.

Howard Riefs

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 12:13:42 AM »
Don't count on the NY metro area as the 2022 PGA Championship is already slated to Trump National Bedminster.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 12:24:37 AM »
What about Trinity Forest in TX?
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 12:25:31 AM »
Olympia Fields. 
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Phil Lipper

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 08:33:34 AM »
I don't see Ferry Point as a Open venue, theres not enough excess property for tents etc.

PCCraig

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2015, 08:35:11 AM »
Chicagoland.
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abmack

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2015, 01:04:58 PM »
I wouldn't rule out another TCC Brookline U.S. Open.

Scott Weersing

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2015, 01:15:31 PM »
What about Trinity Forest in TX?

I wonder if the USGA would return to Texas?

It was last there in 1969 at the Champions Club in Houston.

I wonder if Southern Hills will submit a bid. Does a club submit a bid or does the USGA send a proposal to a club?

Scott Weersing

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2015, 01:19:56 PM »
Olympia Fields. 

I think Olympia Fields is out of the rotation for now as it was replaced with Erin Hills. The USGA goes to the Midwest, once every 14-15 years, with Hazeltine in 1991, Olympia Fields in 2003 and Erin Hills in 2017.

I think the USGA would like to take the US Open to Whistling Straits but it would probably be 2024 as Whistling Straits is hosting the PGA Championship in 2015, and the Ryder Cup in 2020.


John Jeffreys

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2015, 05:53:44 PM »
Atlanta athletic club.

Scott Weersing

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 11:03:11 PM »
Atlanta athletic club.
Yes, it is possible as Jerry Pate won the US Open there back in 1976.

I thought that the USGA would never pick a course with bermuda greens but when they go back to Pinehurst No. 2, then it will be bermuda greens.

So it is not out of the question to go South for a US Open. Streamsong is out because it is too far from the needed infrastructure.

And here is another one that has not been mentioned, Inverness. It is host the 2019 Junior Am, so it may be submitting a bid. And Inverness hosted the US Open in 1979,1957,1931,1920. Would Ohio count as Midwest?

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2015, 11:29:36 PM »
Atlanta athletic club.


And here is another one that has not been mentioned, Inverness. It is host the 2019 Junior Am, so it may be submitting a bid. And Inverness hosted the US Open in 1979,1957,1931,1920. Would Ohio count as Midwest?

As one who spent his formative years in New York, anything west of Pittsburg is the Midwest.
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Jim Sherma

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2015, 04:18:23 PM »
Atlanta athletic club.


And here is another one that has not been mentioned, Inverness. It is host the 2019 Junior Am, so it may be submitting a bid. And Inverness hosted the US Open in 1979,1957,1931,1920. Would Ohio count as Midwest?

As one who spent his formative years in New York, anything west of Pittsburg is the Midwest.

I concur with Tommy's assessment.

Wayne Wiggins, Jr.

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2015, 04:38:24 PM »
Hell, I'm from Philadelphia, and I consider Pittsburgh part of the Midwest. 

V. Kmetz

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2015, 08:55:31 PM »
Hi,

Given the 2021 at Torrey, the "rumor" of LACC in 2023, and the general bounce of the thing, I'd have to say my top contenders are:

1. Oakland Hills - (26 years since an Open...Am in 2016...will have been five years since Midwest will have had one)
2. The Country Club (longest time since - 34 years... Am two years ago...fits the sandwich between West coast venues...intrigues rumored since Merion selection)
3. Medinah 3 (long time since, 32 years...Ryder 2 years ago...will have been five years since Midwest will have had one)
4. Hazeltine (repeat...31 years..Ryder in 2016...repeat on Midwest)
5. Atlanta Athletic club

Nothing amazing there, I suppose - the bigger surprise will be if one of those five doesn't get it. I wish that would happen and that instead some unexpected wildcard like Newport got it...or wouldn't be amazing if an East Coast site like a Mac-Raynor...Fishers, Yale, NGLA. I would be glued to the screen when I wasn't there myself. I know those courses probably aren't the full championship test for today's elite, but to have a major championship on one of those would be a fun, "dream come true" - each for different reasons.

I'll say now that I hope the 2023 turns out to be Riviera, it's just about my favorite course to watch a tournament.

I'm amused at how our (mine too) appetite is so rapacious for such speculation...seven years in the future!

I think I genuinely understand about how the USGA (and any elite tournament body using a remote facility) must forward plan, and how big an enterprise it has become, commercially speaking. Still despite my own participation, there is a snapshot in there that is very ambiguous for me about whether this is all (the exacting preparations) a good thing or a worse thing in the main. It's as if the conduct of the tournament itself is no longer enough, no longer primary. This inchoate notion is present for me, even before the "Openizing" debate over possible architectural impact upon the course chosen to host.

Winged Foot was still just emerging from stakes, and mules, and explosions of rock seven years prior to hosting its' first US Open.

Golf and golf architecture and tournament exploitation were so much different then, I know it doesn't translate... but its seems to me whatever has been gained--commercially, publicly, industrially -- by the engineered spectacle has been balanced by losses in our sense of mystery and reverence about the conduct of the play itself. I'm subject to it too.

cheers

vk
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Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2015, 05:37:40 AM »
What about Trinity Forest in TX?

This is my vote. Or 2024.
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Mark Steffey

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2015, 08:46:08 AM »
Hell, I'm from Philadelphia, and I consider Pittsburgh part of the Midwest. 

wayne is correct.  i'm from pittsburgh and while i was there lived in pennsyltucky.  entirely different states.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2015, 04:22:08 PM »
I wouldn't rule out another TCC Brookline U.S. Open.

You'd think if Brookline wanted it there would have been a Centenary Open there in 2013.  That would have been historic. 

Scott Weersing

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2015, 10:51:05 AM »
I am wondering where else in Boston or NE that the USGA could go for a US Open.

They could also go back to Congressional in 2022 but I think that the low scores from the previous US Open have taken it off the short list.

I wonder if Southern Hills will try for it. Or maybe Trump will buy some course in the next couple of years and then have try to have a US Open.

They could also do a US Open followed by the Women's US Open again in 2022 at Pinehurst.

Jim Sherma

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:24 AM »
Hell, I'm from Philadelphia, and I consider Pittsburgh part of the Midwest. 

wayne is correct.  i'm from pittsburgh and while i was there lived in pennsyltucky.  entirely different states.

To finely cut it I would say that just west of Lancaster in probably the end of the East Coast. Once you get out of the historic area of over the air Philadelphia television you really do get into what is a different state. More northern Appalachia than Mid-West and certainly distinct from the Bos-NY-Wash megalopolis. Getting out of the mountains as you get into Western Ohio is the start of the mid-West in my opinion.

Phil McDade

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2015, 01:46:17 PM »
Olympia Fields. 

I think Olympia Fields is out of the rotation for now as it was replaced with Erin Hills. The USGA goes to the Midwest, once every 14-15 years, with Hazeltine in 1991, Olympia Fields in 2003 and Erin Hills in 2017.

I think the USGA would like to take the US Open to Whistling Straits but it would probably be 2024 as Whistling Straits is hosting the PGA Championship in 2015, and the Ryder Cup in 2020.



I wouldn't necessarily count out Erin Hills for 2022. A short turnaround is unusual, but not unprecedented (BBLack was 7 years the first time around), and Davis -- who loves Erin Hills -- may wait to see how the crowds are in 2017 for the first US Open in Wisconsin before settling on a 2022 course.

Will Lozier

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Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2015, 02:53:29 PM »
Atlanta athletic club.

I live in ATL...and for the love of God, please NO!

David Egerton

Re: Where will the 2022 US Open be played?
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2015, 01:35:25 PM »
2024: Pinehurst No. 2
2030: Merion