Yeah believe me, it is still just as daunting especially with a back right pin. I hit in the water twice in a tournament, both shots landing within 12 feet of the hole. I made a six on my way to an awful 78. With that said, I think that the short par 3 with trouble everywhere isn't used enough. I feel that it is such a good test especially late in the round and it doesn't necessarily have to be an island green either. I think the postage stamp at Troon is a good example of such a hole.