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Mike Hogan

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This was my favorite hole at Cuscowilla.
I think Mac is right on  in that, not many par-5's challenge you that much on the 2nd shot and this hole does that in spades.

I also liked the way the hole played uphill, with most of the elevation gain being in the 2nd shot. This and the downhill tee shot seems to shorten the hole somewhat.

Mark Saltzman

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The 16th is a mid-length par-3 that is just short enough to tempt most golfers to play foolishly towards pins that are left of centre.  The golfer is offered plenty of room to bail out to the right, and he should choose to favor that side as the tilt of the green means any miss to left guarantees bogey.




The finish at Cuscowilla disappointed this author.  The 17th is a reverse dogleg 400 yard par-4 that bends lift and up a hill.






The closer is a massive par-4 that plays over rolling terrain.  Cleverly, the 18th and 9th, both very long par-4s, are routed in opposite directions to ensure varied wind directions and yet somehow both played into a strong headwind on the day I played.  Neither I nor my playing partner could get anywhere near either green in regulation.




Thomas Dai

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Mark,

Thank you for all the time and effort you've put in for this photo tour. I've been looking forward to seeing each new batch of holes posted. The photos are all excellent and your comments most interesting. Well done.

Living in a different part of the globe and not being familiar with how the seasonal changes effect colouring/growing it's nice for me to see what a US course looks like when it's not a lush green, as the US courses we ever really see on TV always look very green, so your photos have given me a completely new insight as to different seasonal conditions.

Photo tours generally are IMO one of the highlights of GCA so thanks again for this one.

All the best.

Bill_McBride

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Thomas, the turf isn't brown because of water management for F&F conditions, it's because the Bermuda turf is dormant.  Still a good surface to play on in the winter. 

Thomas Dai

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Thanks for this Bill. I'd kinda picked that up from a response by Anthony/Tony to a question I raised earlier on the thread.

Cuscowilla looks a terrific place to play.

All the best.

Bill_McBride

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For a lesser player, Cuscowilla is more fun if 9 and 18 are played as par 5's, with a total par of 72.  There is a card with that configuration, and tees back with the tips.  For a player hitting 200-225 yard tee shots, the holes set up as solid par 5's. 

RJ_Daley

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I'm still pondering Bob's comment that Cusco is the second best course in GA.  I thought that it has about 4-5 relatively average holes, which puts it on a par with Long Shadow in my mind for a good golf course, not a great one.  I thought the short par 4 7th was a bit of a clunker in the way the tee shot is forced to thread between the short encroaching tree on the left and the obstructed appoach if played out to the right.  It seems sort of dink and dunk and very little reward if played agressively.  While I liked the two similar tee shots of 4 and 10, they are repetitive in my mind.  I don't see how the statement can be made about 13 being one of Crenshaw's best designed par 3s.  It's OK, but I don't have a vivid memory after only a couple plays there.  The better short par 4 (and among C&Cs best short 4s ) is definitely # 5, in my view.  And 12 is a cute little shorty as well.  The photo of 13 does not bring back any memory of something special.  Every par 4 at Sand Hills is better than 13, IMHO.  ::)

I am in the camp that thinks 14 is a great par 5. 

All the par 3s at Cusco are good.  I did like the skyline 11th very much. 

I remember when it was being built and C&Cs artistic shaper, Drummer, would post and describe the construction of the bunker process.  M.Y. was never enamoured with the design and construction technique if the bunkers as a matter of holding up to wear and tear.  I'm curious as to whether that may have been an overestimated criticism, or if the bunkers have been a huge task to maintain in the past decade (which is how long it has been since I was there). 

I wouldn't miss a chance to replay it if back in that area.  It is very good, but great?  :)
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Rees Milikin

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I welcome anyone to go play Cuscowilla.  I will say that it has lost a little luster with me because they have become gun shy with the speed of the greens ever since we had the hot Summer two years ago.  The greens used to be fast and firm.  I have yet to see them get to that condition since our hot Summer.  I heard they were considering Champion Bermuda but Crenshaw/Coore refused.  Shame, it would be perfect for that climate.

I played today (it just reopened on Tuesday) and wanted to give an update: The greens have been converted to Champions Bermuda & they also removed their most controversial bunker on #14.  I played with a member who told me Bill Coore was there and approved these changes earlier this year.

Crappy Pic of #14 with the bunker removed.

Greg Tallman

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I welcome anyone to go play Cuscowilla.  I will say that it has lost a little luster with me because they have become gun shy with the speed of the greens ever since we had the hot Summer two years ago.  The greens used to be fast and firm.  I have yet to see them get to that condition since our hot Summer.  I heard they were considering Champion Bermuda but Crenshaw/Coore refused.  Shame, it would be perfect for that climate.

I played today (it just reopened on Tuesday) and wanted to give an update: The greens have been converted to Champions Bermuda & they also removed their most controversial bunker on #14.  I played with a member who told me Bill Coore was there and approved these changes earlier this year.

Crappy Pic of #14 with the bunker removed.


That's too bad. Looks like they ruined a very fine golf hole.

Also appears the larger tree was lost/removed and replaced by a sapling. 

Question - Was the area right of the bunkers ever mowed as fairway? Seems that would have been additive to the strategy/options plying the hole, leaving a tough angle but allowing a straight hitter to attempt to shorten the hole a bit. Perhaps a better "solution" than removing the bunker.

The lone bunker really looks out of place now.

Howard Riefs

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That's too bad. Looks like they ruined a very fine golf hole.

Also appears the larger tree was lost/removed and replaced by a sapling. 



Yes and yes.

The second shot is a handful.  Some golfers will choose to play short of the pair of bunkers 175 yards from the green, but golfers hoping to hit the green in regulation must challenge them.  Either play well away from the bunkers and leave a long and blind approach to the green, or skirt them and the golfer will be rewarded with the only clear view of the green.




"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Tim Gavrich

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I'll adopt a contrarian view here - I like the removal of the left bunker and the extension of fairway closer to the other one. Now, I think it looks more tempting to try and skirt the existing bunker in order to get a shorter approach. I thought the hole was a little awkward the one time I played it years ago; hopefully I'll see it again in time.
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BCrosby

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I'm with Tim.  Carrying those bunkers with your second shot is a challenge. Removing the bunker and the tree on the left makes a bail-out easier, while extracting the price of a much longer, harder third shot up the hill to the green.

A controversial hole I have always enjoyed playing.  A big boy par 5.

Bob 

Carl Nichols

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I didn't remember the cart paths being as visible at Cuscowilla as they are in these pictures of 14. . . .