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Dan Byrnes

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Toronto Golf
« on: August 25, 2014, 01:39:12 PM »
Looks like I'll be spending some time in the greater Toronto area this fall.  Specifically the Oakville area but will have transportation.

Any suggestions for golf in the area both public and private?

Thanks

Dan

Chris DeToro

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 01:45:29 PM »
Glen Abbey is right in Oakville and the sight of one of the greatest shots I've ever seen from Tiger.  It's one of Nicklaus' better designs too, in my opinion

Pat Burke

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2014, 02:08:53 PM »
In Toronto right now.
Glen Abby was not very good last week.  Shaggy, not in great shape.
Played Lionhead the last 3 days.  Way too soft, and crazy busy (no down turn here ;)).

Someone recommended Piper's Heath, we may look there tomorrow or weds.
Other than that, I really have no idea what is around here

Tim Johnson

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 02:28:23 PM »
Only suggesting public courses:
Not played Piper's but heard really good things. Royal Ontario is across the road but way to expensive for what the course is.
Lakeview in Mississauga is nice public course, not a long course but it really is a lot of fun. About 10-15 minutes from Oakville, just off the QEW.
Crosswinds in Burlington is a good choice. Out in the country, reasonable fees and a good test.
Sawhet and Deerfield in Oakville are fine courses, if you live here and are looking for a local game, not courses to rave about but I have fun playing them the boys.
Hidden Lake in Burlington- Old course is good but not a fan of the new course.

Obviously there are more options if you are looking to drive 45-60 minutes.




Mark Saltzman

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 02:38:33 PM »

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 03:06:37 PM »
Check out this IMO post from a few years ago. It covers all of Canada but a goodly amount of them are in or around Toronto.
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/andrew-cowan-dewar-mingay-thompson-canadas-top-golf-courses/

In addition to the ones mentioned I would add a few in Muskoka like Muskoka Bay, Deerhurst Highlands and Rocky Crest, Copper Creek, and the other courses at Osprey Valley for publics.   Other privates would be Coppinwood, Goodwood, Summit, Mississauga, Credit Valley, Oviinbyrd, Weston, Devil's Pulpit, Heron Point and Thornhill.

Guy Nicholson

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 03:33:33 PM »
I haven't had access to enough of the privates to give comprehensive advice but what I have played or seen (including St. George's, Weston, Islington, Scarborough, Devil's Pulpit) I can definitely recommend if you can find a way on.

Among the public options mentioned here, I can vouch for Lakeview, which is short and busy and won't wow with conditions but it's a classic and its greens are unique for an accessible municipal course. Osprey Valley's three courses are excellent and underused. Glen Abbey, sure, though the value proposition isn't great. Angus Glen, Copper Creek and Eagle's Nest are among the other big-name daily fee options.

Farther afield: Tarandowah is a low-cost farm links that is very good for low cost, an hour west of Oakville. Muskoka's high-end resort courses (including Bigwin, Taboo, Deerhurst, Rocky Crest, Grandview, Muskoka Bay, Ridge at Manitou and some lesser lights) are worthwhile in memorable topography if you can justify travelling a bit farther. Buried in Mark's list is Kawartha, an hour outside Toronto in Peterborough. It's a super Thompson layout with a recent Ian Andrew bunker redo that takes outside play -- you won't regret that trip. (Here was Mark's brief Kawartha tour for GCA: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50640.0.html)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2014, 03:47:51 PM by Guy Nicholson »

Matt Bosela

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 05:03:59 PM »
Dan,

Niagara Falls is about 40 minutes away from Oakville.  Lookout Point CC (Walter Travis) is awesome and very highly recommended - it's private but definitely accessible with a phone call from your professional.  I would also be more than happy to host you at my home club, St. Catharines G&CC, which is also in the Niagara Region and only about 35 minutes from Oakville.

There's a good muni in Hamilton called King's Forest GC - it has been off and on recent lists of Canada's top 100 courses.  This course wouldn't be more than 25-30 minutes away from you in Oakville.

The private golf in Toronto is superb and the quality rivals that of most of the big cities in the US.  That said, courses in T.O. were hit hard by the ice storms this past winter and are just starting to come back to health in the past month or so.  Most of the great ones have already been mentioned on this thread.

Jeff Bergeron

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 08:38:02 PM »
Looks like I'll be spending some time in the greater Toronto area this fall.  Specifically the Oakville area but will have transportation.

Any suggestions for golf in the area both public and private?

Thanks

Dan

Find a way to play Toronto Golf and Hamilton G&CC. Both are original HS Colts.
They both suffer from 'Tree Committees' particularly Hamilton but the bones are there.
Hawtree did a nice job on the recent restoration at Toronto.

Bruce Leland

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 10:13:38 PM »
Paintbrush and Pulpit are a great contrast in style by Dr Hurdzan. I thoroughly enjoyed both but prefer Paintbrush. If you go, say hello to "The Chief" Superintendent Ken Wright, worth the trip in and of itself!
"The mystique of Muirfield lingers on. So does the memory of Carnoustie's foreboding. So does the scenic wonder of Turnberry and the haunting incredibility of Prestwick, and the pleasant deception of Troon. But put them altogether and St. Andrew's can play their low ball for atmosphere." Dan Jenkins

Bryan Izatt

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2014, 10:35:37 PM »
Dan,

Which part of the fall did you have in mind?  Most of the privates close down at the end of October.  Weather can get iffy in the latter part of October too.

I wouldn't bother with Glen Abbey or Lionhead or Angus Glen - all expensive for what they offer.

If you want public, then the three at Osprey Valley are the best imo.  Eagles Nest is very good too but often busy or booked up with tournaments.  There are excellent privates if you can get on as mentioned by others.

If you want a game I can host you at any of the Clublink courses (IM me if you want).  Not particularly cheap, but I like my home courses at Bond Head - both Hurdzan Fry modern courses.


Matt Bradley

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2014, 11:38:20 PM »
Toronto Golf Club is a superb Colt. The work that has been done to restore it is magnificent and is really a great day.

Dan Byrnes

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 10:08:16 PM »
It looks like my first visit will be in 2nd week of September but I am guessing I'll be there a few times this fall.

Dan


Dan,

Which part of the fall did you have in mind?  Most of the privates close down at the end of October.  Weather can get iffy in the latter part of October too.

I wouldn't bother with Glen Abbey or Lionhead or Angus Glen - all expensive for what they offer.

If you want public, then the three at Osprey Valley are the best imo.  Eagles Nest is very good too but often busy or booked up with tournaments.  There are excellent privates if you can get on as mentioned by others.

If you want a game I can host you at any of the Clublink courses (IM me if you want).  Not particularly cheap, but I like my home courses at Bond Head - both Hurdzan Fry modern courses.





Bryan Izatt

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 11:27:23 AM »
Dan,

From September 8th to 16th I'll be in England for the Buda Cup.  Looks like I'll miss you. Let me know if you're back again after that.

Charlie Gallagher

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 02:00:25 PM »
If you can obtain access, St Georges is a must play. This superbly interesting and fun parkland course tumbles through a labyrinth of ridges and little valleys.  Thompson used the topography of the site cunningly in the routing as you play up and down the property on both 9's and there is ever changing variety from hole to hole. All sorts of great holes and challenge. The 8th is one of the coolest par 3's I have played any where and the 14th has to be one of the best par 4's in all of Canada. Get there if you can; the course shows the worthiness of Thompson as an elite architect.

Matt Bosela

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2014, 02:35:39 PM »
Keep in mind that St. George's is currently undergoing a major restoration, with the GCA duo of Tom Doak and Ian Andrew carrying out the work.

I'm guessing there are a few temporary greens in place so the timing may not be right for a visit. 

Bart Bradley

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2014, 08:16:55 AM »
Keep in mind that St. George's is currently undergoing a major restoration, with the GCA duo of Tom Doak and Ian Andrew carrying out the work.

I'm guessing there are a few temporary greens in place so the timing may not be right for a visit. 

I was up there 2 weeks ago and was told that the course was closed. 

Bart

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2014, 02:12:32 PM »
The St. George's Pro Shop tweeted this morning "After only 54 days and a lot of man power we are happy to report all 18 greens have been fully seeded. "

Ian Andrew

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Re: Toronto Golf
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2014, 07:35:58 PM »
The St. George's Pro Shop tweeted this morning "After only 54 days and a lot of man power we are happy to report all 18 greens have been fully seeded. "

Now it's at least nine more months before re-opening them ...
With every golf development bubble, the end was unexpected and brutal....

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