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Dave Doxey

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Study on future of closed courses
« on: July 09, 2014, 07:20:05 PM »
I found this county government study on golf in Maryland and future options for closed courses. (On Geoff Shackelford's site)

http://www.pgplanning.org/Assets/Planning/Countywide+Planning/Research/Golf+Course+Study+-++May+2013.pdf

I'm not sure what discussion that I'm looking for - I just found it sad.  I hate to see any course close.

Are things really this bad?

Mike Sweeney

Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 08:39:04 PM »
I just found it sad.  I hate to see any course close.

Are things really this bad?

1. I am of the Mike Young Society, change is good.

2. This website focuses on maybe 1000 golf courses in the universe, how many have closed? Blue Heron Pines in New Jersey, what else?

3. If a golf course closes and a cancer clinic opens, how is that bad?

Dave Doxey

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Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 11:13:21 AM »
I just found it sad.  I hate to see any course close.

Are things really this bad?

1. I am of the Mike Young Society, change is good.

2. This website focuses on maybe 1000 golf courses in the universe, how many have closed? Blue Heron Pines in New Jersey, what else?

3. If a golf course closes and a cancer clinic opens, how is that bad?

Apologies for the posting.

I guess that if a course is not "top 1000" and closes, it matters not (unless perhaps it's where one plays or makes one's living).

john_stiles

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Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 11:38:30 AM »
In the case of Acacia CC in the Cleveland Ohio area, the course is being returned to a city park or "reservation".

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/cleveland_metroparks_acacia_a_former.html

An excerpt from the article by James Ewinger of "The Plain Dealer" ,  May 20, 2013  >


"  LYNDHURST, Ohio --The Cleveland Metroparks will attempt what few have undertaken before as the park system converts the former Acacia Country Club into its newest reservation.

Strictly speaking, it already is the 17th park in the Emerald Necklace and is open to the public. The loose plan is to erase all traces of golf and turn the land back to a heavily forested state.  Actually, that’s more than a plan, it’s an obligation (see deed with restrictions in the document viewer below).

The Conservation Fund, a Virginia-based private nonprofit conservation group, paid more than $14 million for the club last year and deeded it over to the Metroparks in December, under several restrictions including a requirement that it will never be used for golf and will return to nature instead.

Matt Sexton, a Shaker Heights native and a senior vice president with the Conservation Fund, said the organization began working to acquire the course a year ago. “We approached the Metroparks to see what their interest would be in owning and managing the property. The purpose of conveying it to the Metroparks was to turn it back into a preserve and a park.”    "
    
« Last Edit: July 11, 2014, 11:43:38 AM by john_stiles »


RJ_Daley

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Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 09:15:13 PM »
There are varied reasons that courses close. Of course the primary reason is that it isn't profitable.  If it is an old city course in private ownership, and it is sold for a highest best use, and the sale gives the ownership a lucrative out from under a failing financial proposition, then why not.  The few jobs involved in course operations will probably replaced by both the higher construction jobs and subsequent small biz and other pieces of the economy that will follow on in years going forward.   If it is a failing public course, perhaps a significant recreational park might offer a comeasurate number of citizens an alternative form of healthy recreation, and other sections might give rise to varied housing, or small or even large commercial enterprises.  A failed or closed golf course goes by the wayside for a reason, and the situation that follows can be a new and better circumstance for the locale.  It depends on the wisdom of the powers that be who zone, regulate, invest and community plan.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 09:32:27 PM »
I just found it sad.  I hate to see any course close.

Are things really this bad?

1. I am of the Mike Young Society, change is good.

2. This website focuses on maybe 1000 golf courses in the universe, how many have closed? Blue Heron Pines in New Jersey, what else?

3. If a golf course closes and a cancer clinic opens, how is that bad?

Apologies for the posting.

I guess that if a course is not "top 1000" and closes, it matters not (unless perhaps it's where one plays or makes one's living).


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BCowan

Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 09:34:25 PM »
Mike,

    I never saw your Mike Young Society Application?  You are under further review.  ;D

Steve Lang

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Re: Study on future of closed courses
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 10:05:02 PM »
 8)  well it looks like Highpointe is growing soybeans this year out on the front nine...   MS sheila says its the corn, corn, soybeans rotation...
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