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William_G

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Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« on: June 14, 2014, 12:53:41 AM »
What's the best path forward for the future of playing golf?



love the Lee Trevino pic

manicured and lush or dry and baked/naturalistic

 8)

« Last Edit: June 14, 2014, 10:23:13 AM by William_G »
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William_G

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 10:22:38 AM »
I think that both versions are good for the game but that the site of the golf course must dictate its condition or style

thanks
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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 10:43:32 AM »
William,

I agree with you but unfortunately there is not a balance on the Tour nor in most golf literature aimed at Joe Public. I would also add to to your last statement that seasonal weather conditions should reflect in the look and play of a course IMO.

Jon

Paul Gray

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 10:51:39 AM »
Firm and fast is ultimately the best form of golf but it's very much a summer condition.  Lush and green has always been a part of the game. It's called winter conditions.

Regarding Augusta in April, just let it play as it did before irrigation, ie. how it was intended to play.
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In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

William_G

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 02:19:35 PM »

Firm and fast is ultimately the best form of golf but it's very much a Summer condition.  Lush and green has always been a part of the game. It's called winter conditions.

Regarding Augusta in April, just let it play as it did before irrigation, ie. how it was intended to play.

the overseed is just a massive part of Augusta and the Masters now
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Wade Whitehead

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »
90%+ of the golfing public would not enjoy playing a course that remotely resembles the #2 presented this week.

WW

William_G

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 03:00:45 PM »
90%+ of the golfing public would not enjoy playing a course that remotely resembles the #2 presented this week.

WW

yes ball control is at it's highest when it's firm and fast
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William_G

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 04:49:32 PM »
Gray,

Augusta is great as it's blessed with such great topography, green complexes and was designed by Mackenzie.  I honestly think if it presented more like Old Town it would pop on the tv screen even more and I certainly wouldn't have said that a few years ago.

Cheers,
B

it would be, could be, very difficult and the Sunday roars may be groans

no doubt the site is perfect for a mostly lush course given modern  technology as it is now

could you be a Spartan fan?
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Paul Gray

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2014, 05:30:08 PM »
William,

With the greatest of respect, technology is exactly why Augusta needs to play the way Mckenzie designed it to play.

Wade,

I just don't agree. Most people, once they get a feel for it, love links golf so to say 90% of golfers wouldn't like proper firm conditions is simply not consistent with the evidence.
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Matt MacIver

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2014, 06:42:41 PM »
I think #2 should continue on its track and be the poster child for all things brown,environmental, firm and economical.

I think the Resort should keep and/or move #8 as close as they can to Augusta - lush and green and immaculate. The marketing department would love it.

Jim Hoak

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Re: Augusta and the Masters or #2 and the the US Open
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2014, 10:51:06 PM »
I don't think most courses will have a choice of which they prefer, given the current state of water supply, and its politics, in the US.