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Charlie_Bell

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2014, 11:49:32 PM »
George,

Though you'll not remember me, I remember meeting you vividly...  You had been retained by Hotchkiss to evaluate our lovely little Raynor gem, and through Jim Kennedy I was keenly aware of the day you were coming to have a look at it.  I had high hopes of spending some quality time with you, but my students kept me in the classroom far longer than I would have wanted.  Finally, long after the time you should have been gone, I raced down to the pro shop, where Jim told me you were out on the course.  I literally ran to find you, and I was lucky enough to catch you on the downslope between the 8th tee and the 1st green. 

Why does this matter to me?  Because The Evangelist and your write-up of Hotchkiss were the gateway drugs that led to my addiction to architecture.  Meeting you was like meeting The King -- Arnie or Elvis, take your pick.  Thanks to you, NGLA remains #1 on my life list of courses I would love to play, and I don't mind saying I'm taking an early withdrawal from the nest egg to play #2 on the list, Royal Dornoch, and a few others this summer.  It sounds strange, but I doubt that I'd be going on the trip -- I definitely wouldn't be anticipating it so eagerly -- if it hadn't been for your devotion to the work of MacDonald, Raynor, and Banks.  I'll be thinking of you as I tee off in the auld country with the fellow MacRaynor devotee who gave me my copy of The Evangelist, as I'll be thinking of you again every time we pass the downslope between the 8th and the 1st. 

And I'll shake Jim's hand with a little more respect, knowing that it's touched Seth Raynor's watch...

Drive 'em straight and chip 'em tight.

Kevin_D

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2014, 09:27:21 AM »
George,

You don't know me, but I am a great admirer of what yours. From what I've read you are quite an incredible person.

I just ordered The Evangelist of Golf and look forward to reading it very much.

Be well.

Kevin

Rob Miller

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2014, 10:12:56 AM »
There are some people you meet in life and although it the encounter may be brief their marks are indelible.  I met George once in Bandon but learned so much from him both in person and in print.  In the end, the thing about George is he's so damn likable.  Get well sir, you still have so much more to teach. 

Rick Shefchik

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2014, 10:36:52 AM »
George, we haven't met, but you've cheerfully helped me several times in my research on Minnesota's Seth Raynor courses. Whenever I visit those courses and talk to members about their history, your name comes up immediately. Your impact on golf history across the land is immeasurable. Thank you. All the best.

"Golf is 20 percent mechanics and technique. The other 80 percent is philosophy, humor, tragedy, romance, melodrama, companionship, camaraderie, cussedness and conversation." - Grantland Rice

Scott_Burroughs

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2014, 10:45:16 AM »
George,

It’s always interesting how familiar we can become frequenting a message board and having offline communication.  Back in the day, we e-mailed back and forth about aerials and such.  You’d met many GCAers in person, so it was easy to understand that when we did finally meet last summer, you thought we *had* met before.  I certainly was thrilled to meet you and see that treasure trove of a workshop in your basement.  Talk about a kid in a candy store (or Eden, as it were :) )!  Nothing like a little teaser from you hinting at stuff you *couldn’t* show us.  Your wife was very pleasant accommodating more of those “internet golf friends” I’m sure she’s met through the years.  As Ed said, dinner was also a treat, hearing the stories.

This thread reminds me of how dearly I need to get out to see Old Mac…

Daryn_Soldan

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2014, 10:53:43 AM »
George,

While me met only once at Bandon, your writings and passion for the game are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your time with so many. I will always cherish our chat at the back of Old Mac's 5th green and your insights over dinner that evening. Hang in there and play well!

- Daryn

herrstein

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2014, 12:01:54 PM »
George,

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I'll have the Rev. King Oehmig send up a prayer as well; I think he has a direct line.

All the best, my friend.

Doug Stein

Lou_Duran

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2014, 12:59:25 PM »
Dear George,

It was a great pleasure spending time with you at the Golfweek retreats in Kiawah Island in 2002 and Bandon Dunes in 2003.  Your life story is compelling and, like with John Kirk, "The Evangelist ...." is my favorite, most treasured architecture book.

Among the things I like most about you is your humble, warm, common man approach.  It is obvious that you're comfortable in your own skin.  Your love for golf architecture and respect for its history go without saying.  The latter is particularly important as an incident with a Shinnecock member demonstrated.  You may recall that I sent you an "Evangelist ...." to personalize for my host.  A few weeks later, I got a note from the guy saying that much of what was in the book was total news to him and how greatly he appreciated learning about Macdonald, NGLA, which he had played many times, and his own club of some 20 years.  Thanks for being a great teacher.

Two telling, somewhat amusing stories about George.  At Kiawah, you invited me to peruse the manuscript which may have been for the "Evangelist", but most likely it was for the second volume.  I came by your condo/townhouse late at night, knocked on the door, it opens and there you stand in your skivvies at ease as if you were fully dressed.  Thank God that by then we were somewhat familiar with each other or I wouldn't have crossed the threshold.

At Bandon I introduced you to an acquaintance who had recently sold his business and, along with a partner, had optioned a large tract of land north of NYC with the intent of building a golf course.  He was in the process of talking to architects/designers and asked if I had any recommendations.  Being that we had at least three there, two with whom I felt comfortable, I suggested a short, informal introduction after dinner.  It took some work to persuade one who is naturally reticent to meet the potential client, but once we got started on the objectives of the project, he was receptive.  You were the other, jumping at the opportunity with great enthusiasm, and making a very favorable, immediate impression on my acquaintance.  A lot to be said for a positive, enthusiastic, energetic demeanor.

Playing the Knoll remains high on my list and during my next trip to NYC, I will rent a car and cross the bridge.  Perhaps, if you're up to it, we can get a cup of coffee and visit.  Who knows, maybe you and Gib will have Volume II off the press by then and you can personalize my copy for me.

The Bahtos are in my thoughts and prayers.  Looking at these pages, you have so many good friends, a clear indication of a life well-lived.  Much is left to do.  We are all rooting for you.

Best wishes,

Lou      

DMoriarty

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2014, 01:34:16 PM »
I too am very sorry to hear that George is ill.  My thoughts are with him and his family.

So far as I am concerned, George is a pioneer and a role model when it comes to the careful study of of the history of golf course architecture.   His terrific work on Macdonald and Raynor really opened up the genre to me, and demonstrated that these seemingly archaic pursuits really could be interesting and worthwhile. For that I am truly grateful.

Personally, I don't know George as well as do many, but even the briefest encounters bring home the fact that George is a kind man of great humor and intelligence.  Always teaching.  Always willing to help.  He does owe me a beer, though, from a little putting contest on a rainy day over a decade ago.  I am not letting him off the hook for that.

I do hope George and his family realize the love and respect so many have for him.
Golf history can be quite interesting if you just let your favorite legends go and allow the truth to take you where it will.
--Tom MacWood (1958-2012)

Tim_Weiman

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2014, 05:20:15 PM »
It was my pleasure to briefly visit with George and Neil Regan at the recent Walker Cup at NGLA. George is one of the grand figures when it comes to our love of golf architecture.

Absolutely love the story Tom Doak told about George's response to seeing Prestwick and very happy George had the opportunity to participate in the Old Macdonald project.

Wishing George a return to health.
Tim Weiman

Jeffrey Stein

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2014, 07:30:07 PM »
George,

I still owe you those maps of Timber Point for your archive…

I'll never forget sitting in the backseat of our rented mini-van, returning from Sleepy Hollow, while Jim Urbina fired questions at you about anything and everything. It was a priceless "fly on the wall" moment for me and I am privileged to have met you.

All my best,

Jeff Stein
I love the smell of hydroseed in the morning.
www.steingolf.com

Gib_Papazian

Re: George Bahto
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2014, 01:04:08 AM »
 :'(
« Last Edit: March 16, 2014, 01:13:30 AM by Gib Papazian »

Angela Moser

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2014, 03:42:37 AM »
Dear Mr. Bahto,

I'm sorry to hear that you are sick. We met briefly at the Old Mac Renaissance Cup in 2011, and we've never had the opportunity to discuss golf, or play golf together.

"The Evangelist Of Golf" is a wonderfully written, explained and illustrated book and even for a German easy to read. Thank you for opening my eyes to the world of CBM. Your knowledge of C. B. Macdonald's work obviously influenced Tom and Jim at Old Mac. I wish I had more time to talk with you there, but it was very nice to see you linger around and explore the new preserve course back then.

Thank you for all the input you give to the world of GCA, and I hope you feel better soon.

All the best thoughts to you and your family,
Angela

Matt MacIver

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2014, 08:11:07 AM »
Hoping for a speedy recovery, get well and my best to your family.

jkinney

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2014, 12:04:56 PM »
Dear George,

    Our time spent together during the Walker Cup at National is, and always will be, a treasure to me. Bill Salinetti, Robert Cummings (Green Committee Chair) and I were enthralled as you expounded on CBM and his National during the Friday night dinner.
    Many thanks for all your great work and companionship. Godspeed.
 
All the best,
Jeremy

Tim_Cronin

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2014, 11:47:03 PM »
Dear George,

Every best wish for a speedy and complete recovery. My copy of "The Evangelist of Golf" stands prominently in the library, always beckoning for another read. It is a gem, but you are a treasure. And I know that though we have not yet met. Get well soon!

Tim
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2014, 11:47:40 AM »
George,

Again, thank you for your help on the infamous North Shore thread and for the time we spent at The Knoll in September, 2012. You are a treasure in the world of golf history and one helluva raconteur.



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Dan Herrmann

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #92 on: March 16, 2014, 02:34:51 PM »
George - I pray for your recovery and freedom from pain.  May you receive nothing but peace and joy from your friends here.

PThomas

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #93 on: March 16, 2014, 04:05:09 PM »
You are in my prayers Mr. Bahto
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Ronald Montesano

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2014, 06:04:51 PM »
don Jorge...

took the time out of his busy schedule to do an interview with BuffaloGolfer.Com, my site. Here it is:

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/review-march-2010-interview-with-george-bahto/

Jorge, if no one has called you that, let me be the first. If others have, let me join their company. If you choose to depart this kingdom for another, know that you have enriched the lives of so many, innumerable souls and sorts. Your human interaction, your written words, your insatiable curiosity have saved much of golf that might have been lost.

Thank you. You are my compass.
Coming in 2024
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~Soaring Eagles
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~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

V. Kmetz

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2014, 07:05:29 PM »
Mr. Bahto,

If the esteem and respect in which a person is held can leaven the burdens of what all human people must eventually face, then be secure that your journey will be as light as a feather.

And if your future assignment permits, drop us all a bit of wisdom from time to time; we remain eager to hear your voice.

With admiration,

Vincent P. Kmetz
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"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Craig Disher

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2014, 10:07:24 PM »
George,
You tried your best at Annapolis GC but it wasn't enough - although it was a minor defeat in your long list of successes. Thank you so much for your scholarship, guidance, and encouragement. It's obvious from all the comments posted above here how much you've meant to hundreds of gca enthusiasts throughout the world. I'm certainly one of them.


Patrick Kiser

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #97 on: March 17, 2014, 09:56:41 AM »
I'm very sorry to hear as well.

I had the pleasure of meeting and seeing George in action at Sleepy Hollow a few years back and it was followed by a fun filled dinner at Guadalajara.  Gil Hanse, Mike DeVries, Tommy, and a host of others were in attendance and it was quite fun to be part of the conversations.  Memories...  I have a photo here somewhere and will have to find it.

I wish him and his family the very best in these tough times.  Keep those spirits up!


Photo found: George, moi, Tommy, and Mike ... fun times

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or less of a nuisance, is water. Water hazards
absolutely prohibit the recovery shot, perhaps
the best shot in the game.” —William Flynn, golf
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Mike Sweeney

Re: George Bahto
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2014, 11:45:38 AM »

You tried your best at Annapolis GC but it wasn't enough - although it was a minor defeat in your long list of successes. Thank you so much for your scholarship, guidance, and encouragement. It's obvious from all the comments posted above here how much you've meant to hundreds of gca enthusiasts throughout the world. I'm certainly one of them.


I was really disappointed that I missed Annapolis before it closed. It would have been the perfect Goat Hill for me moving forward, but alas I appreciate the exposure to it through George and his many writings.   

Neil Regan

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Re: George Bahto
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2014, 12:12:05 PM »
One of George's favorite golfers is W.C. Fields.
Here he is in a non-golfing scene which George can quote with all of Fields's body language.

W.C. Fields, It's a Gift, Porch Scene



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