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Mark Saltzman

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Also available on my blog: http://onegolferstravels.blogspot.com/2012/01/west-palm-beach-golf-club-review.html

West Palm Beach Municipal Golf Course
West Palm Beach, Florida, United States

Architect: Dick Wilson (1947), Restored by Mark McCumber (2009)

Yardage: 7,002 Yards, Par 72

Rating/Slope: 73.0/128

My Quick Review: Don't let the word 'muni' scare you away -- West Palm Beach GC was a long-time PGA tour stop and is one of the best values in the country.






My Thoughts

If you like courses that play firm and fast, then WPB is for you.  Of the 75 or so courses I've played in South Florida, only one (which must have a massive maintenance budget) had a maintenance meld that encouraged the ground-game like WPB.  Sure, the fairway grass is a bit thin in spots, the amount of sand in the bunkers is inconsistent, and the greens are a tad slow, but I would happily choose the conditioning at WPB over so many of the over-watered, over-manicured, bright green courses for which Florida is known.

While I really enjoyed WPB, it is far from great.  Though there are no holes that are terrible, there are a good number that are very ordinary.  The sand bordering every fairway, can add interest to some of these holes, but really they are of little strategic interest.  Nevertheless, for $24.00 including cart on EZ Links (though I walked -- nice to have that option), I am convinced this is among the very best values in the entire country.

The routing is adequate -- easily walkable and with fairly effective use of the limited elevation on property, though there were a few too many holes that moved back-and-forth.

Green shaping is a highlight of the golf course, though green contouring is not.




Holes to Note

Hole 2: Par 5, 588 Yards
After a fairly benign opening hole, the golf course shows it teeth with the very long par-5 2nd.  The strong wind blows into the golfer from the left, making the fairly wide fairway difficult to find.  To find the fairway, one must aim at the bunker on the left and hope his ball blows into the centre of the fairway, and not so far that it finds the waste area on the right.  The golfer willing to sacrifice distance for accuracy can choose to hit his tee shot to the widest part of the fairway short of the bunkering on the left, but this will leave a second shot in the 350 yard area. 

2nd Tee




After a good tee shot, the second shot is as simple as any shot on the course.  Lots of width, just lay up to the yardage you want -- the second shot is the weak spot on this hole.

The 2nd at the 2nd




The approach is played slightly uphill to a green that slopes significantly back-to-front.  Two bunkers guard the green, with the one on the left being of some significant depth.

Approach to the 2nd



2nd from Behind Green





Hole 4: Par 4, 465 Yards
Though the 4th is long on the card and plays slightly uphill, it is the first time the player will have the wind with him -- downwind and with the firm fairways, this hole will play fairly short.  The 4th fairway is extremely wide.  The bunkering is a bit unusual, with an out-of-play bunker guarding the beginning of  the fairway on the right, and a bunker on the left guarding the ideal angle into the green.

4th Tee




This was the most fun approach on the golf course.    Playing straight downwind from 150 yards, and with a large 'kicker' short-right of the green, gauging the yardage is no easy task -- any shot flying onto the green probably will not stop.  A chipped 7-iron played up the slope on the right is very fun to watch it bounce, roll and trundle down onto the green -- what is this, Florida or Ireland?

Approach to the 4th -- Note kicker on the right




The 4th green among the best greens on the course -- narrow in front and wide in the back, full of small rolls and a more significant ridge separating the front of the green from the back.

4th Green




4th from Behind





Hole 5: Par 4, 326 Yards
Routed in the same direction as the 4th, the 5th also plays straight downwind and is driveable by the bombers.  For those willing to lay-back, short of the bunkers that juts into the fairway 80 yards short of the green, the fairway is extremely wide.  Golfers hoping to leave only a pitch into the green must challenge the narrow portion of the fairway right of the bunker.  The hole would be greatly improved if at least one of those front bunkers were removed to further entice players to try to drive the green.

5th Tee




5th Fairway - Note the Massive Width Short of the Bunker




5th Approach Short of Bunker




The pitch to the 5th is not so simple, playing uphill and straight downwind to a green that slopes away from the golfer.  Perhaps laying back in the fairway was the play?

5th from Behind Green





Hole 7: Par 3, 225 Yards
As a golfer who has seen many golf courses, when I see a 225 yard par-3 (200 yard from the member's tee), I expect it play downhill and/or downwind.  Not so at WPB! The 7th is a brute of a hole, playing uphill, into the wind, with massively deep bunkering and the most contoured green on the course!

7th Tee



Deep Bunkers Guard the Front of the 7th Green





The green has a very 'wavy' feel as ridges run through the green, separating it into three bowls and a pinnable and very difficult centre ridge.

7th Green



7th from Behind-Right





Hole 10: Par 5, 478 Yards
The 10th tee shot is a lesson in simple, strategic design -- challenge the bunker on the right for the shorter approach with the best angle, or play away from the bunker to the wide part of the fairway and leave a more difficult second shot.  If the bunker on the right is carried (about 280) yards, the player will find a significant downslope, which would make this par-5 look silly, leaving nothing more than 150 yards into the green.

10th Tee




Second shot on the 10th from Top of Hill -- Bunker on the Right is Bizarrely Placed




10th Green




The 10th green is dull -- large and simply contoured, and guarded only by two small front bunkers.  Or is it?  A view from the 11th green shows a deep run-off into the waste area long-left of the green -- don't miss there!

10th from 11th Green





Hole 12: Par 5, 518 Yards
The 12th is a great example of a hole with the 'bunkers everywhere' appearance.  Though the bunkers are staggered, and some of the bunkering is actually waste area some 400 yards from the tee, it appears as though there are bunkers no matter what the line off the tee.  Of the bunkers in play, the golfer must give the most consideration to the two bunkers that pinch the fairway 250 yards from the green -- lay-up to the them and reaching the green in two is impossible; challenge/carry them and the golfer catches a downslope and will have no more than 200 yards into the green.

12th Tee




12th Tee Zoomed In





For most, the second shot will be played from the top of the hill, short of the fairway bunkers.  The goal is to avoid the waste area on the right.  Lay-up as close to the green as you like, but beware, the fairway narrows the closer to the green the golfer gets.

12th Second Shot





The approach to the 12th is played over a front bunker and a very cool-looking grass bunker.

12th Approach




Grass Bunker Short of 12th Green




The 12th green is very shallow and very sloped from back-to-front.  The green-shape is very interesting, resembling a, well, you can work it out...

12 Green



12th from Behind Green





Hole 17: Par 4, 388 Yards
The 17th is a decent mid-length par-4, but I think it could be a very good short par-4 if you move up a set (or two) of tees as I did.  The pictures are taken from the 350 yard tee box.  From there, there is a real decision whether to play to the wide portion of the right, or to challenge the bunker on the left to leave just a pitch into the green.

17th Tee



17th Tee Zoomed In





The approach to the 17th is fairly simple provided the golfer is coming from the fairway.  Boring bunkering.

17th Approach




17th from Behind -- Note 'Sunday Pin Position" on Left Edge of Green





Hole 18: Par 5, 565 Yards
The tee shot at the 18th is a fairly difficult one.  The fairway is narrower than many others on the course, though perhaps this is because the hole generally plays straight downwind.

18th Tee




The golfer must choose whether to play to the wide part of the fairway on the left, or to carry the waste area on the right for the ideal line to lay up or go for the green.

18th Tee Zoomed In




The second shot is played over the corner of the fairway bunker, with the main goal of avoiding the fairway bunker on the right side of the fairway, 100 yards short of the green.

18th Second Shot




The approach to the 18th is played to yet another raised green, guarded by bunkers short left and right.

18th Approach







18th from Behind



Phil McDade

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Mark:

Well done; my brother lives not far from here. I'll have to play on my next visit. Looks really F&F -- maybe austerity maintenance budgets are the way to go. :D

Frank M

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Good stuff Mark.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 08:44:59 PM by Frank M »

Sam Morrow

I've only played one McCumber course, Windance in Biloxi, I was impressed with how natural and subtle the greens were. Tee to green the course wasn't much but I really liked the greens.

Jud_T

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Mark,

Thanks.  Always looking for a decent option to get away from the inlaws for a few hours... ;)  I want to be you when I grow up,  including the monotonously consistent swing!
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Jerry Kluger

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I have played it a number of times since it was redone and I think it is well worth playing and the price is right.  My only problem with the course has been conditioning and it is clearly treated like a muni by the players as there are unfilled divots and unrepaired ballmarks all over the place.  Osprey Point in Boca is another muni which is well worth a play and is usually in better shape. 

Mark Saltzman

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I have played it a number of times since it was redone and I think it is well worth playing and the price is right.  My only problem with the course has been conditioning and it is clearly treated like a muni by the players as there are unfilled divots and unrepaired ballmarks all over the place.  Osprey Point in Boca is another muni which is well worth a play and is usually in better shape. 

Jerry,

Maybe it is a bit better this year, as the conditioning at WPB Muni didn't bother me at all.  Didn't notice divots in the fairways.  Greens were quite firm too, so maybe there are not as many pitchmarks this year, compared to when you played.

Mark Saltzman

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Mark,

Thanks.  Always looking for a decent option to get away from the inlaws for a few hours... ;)  I want to be you when I grow up,  including the monotonously consistent swing!

Jud, not saying it is the absolute best option around, but I know you like firm fairways and ground-game options, so WPB Muni might just suit your fancy.  If you recall, my "monotonously consistent swing" often hit it straight, but not so far -- imagine my joy when I measured my drive on the downwind 4th, and it came to 314 yards! BOOM

If you come down this winter send me a PM and let me know and maybe we can get out for a round -- I'm down a couple of days a month.

Brett Hochstein

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I really love the transition from grass to sand on the right side of the second shot on the 2nd--looks very natural.  They could do that more if they wanted, but I am sure they probably fight against it.  Conditions look great overall for true warm season.
"From now on, ask yourself, after every round, if you have more energy than before you began.  'Tis much more important than the score, Michael, much more important than the score."     --John Stark - 'To the Linksland'

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BCowan

Course looks good.  thanks Mark

John Percival

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Mark,
WPB was a favorite of mine when I lived in PB.
Some additional notes, some good, some less:
   The course is quite unique for Florida, especially the PB area, in that there is very good land movement.
   As you mentioned, a hole like #7 is enhanced by not only the headwind, but the elevation. What a great half par hole.
   While there is elevation, it does not overwhelm or is it sharp, thus providing a terrific walking opportunity for those who choose.
   Even more rare for Florida is the total lack of ANY water on the course. None, zero, zip. Very welcome for rusty snow belt games.
   And the layout offers a nice mix of lengths to test games thru the bag
On the other hand
   They used to have this pain-in-the-ass reservation policy. They only took them in person!! Ouch. Had to get up early (like, still dark  
   early) and go to the course. Hope they've changed that.
   The new waste areas were encroaching into grassed areas, narrowing them. Hope the super has managed to control that migration.
   Lastly, and sadly, hundreds of large trees have been removed, revealing some less than appealing backdrops. For a great example,
   view the picture of #5 from the tee and contrast that with the picture of #2 tee, #4 green or 10 tee. The course used to be  
   almost entirely cloistered by those large trees, eliminating poor views and transforming the aura into something unique, again for
   Florida, and especially for a muni. Also, they created some interesting wind variations thru the round. And before anyone gets their
   shorts in a knot, the trees were well away from play areas, thus not causing any maintenance or play issues. And can we PLEASE
   not start up with the non-native argument. If you're gonna go there, then away with white belts, air conditioning and Donald
   Trump (how DID he arrange for such difficult weather?)
On the whole (and especially for the price and as a walking venue), WPB will provide a good experience for the player. Those of you living in the PB area are fortunate to have it.

jeffwarne

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Mark,
WPB was a favorite of mine when I lived in PB.
Some additional notes, some good, some less:
   The course is quite unique for Florida, especially the PB area, in that there is very good land movement.
   As you mentioned, a hole like #7 is enhanced by not only the headwind, but the elevation. What a great half par hole.
   While there is elevation, it does not overwhelm or is it sharp, thus providing a terrific walking opportunity for those who choose.
   Even more rare for Florida is the total lack of ANY water on the course. None, zero, zip. Very welcome for rusty snow belt games.
   And the layout offers a nice mix of lengths to test games thru the bag
On the other hand
   They used to have this pain-in-the-ass reservation policy. They only took them in person!! Ouch. Had to get up early (like, still dark  
   early) and go to the course. Hope they've changed that.
   The new waste areas were encroaching into grassed areas, narrowing them. Hope the super has managed to control that migration.
   Lastly, and sadly, hundreds of large trees have been removed, revealing some less than appealing backdrops. For a great example,
   view the picture of #5 from the tee and contrast that with the picture of #2 tee, #4 green or 10 tee. The course used to be  
   almost entirely cloistered by those large trees, eliminating poor views and transforming the aura into something unique, again for
   Florida, and especially for a muni. Also, they created some interesting wind variations thru the round. And before anyone gets their
   shorts in a knot, the trees were well away from play areas, thus not causing any maintenance or play issues. And can we PLEASE
   not start up with the non-native argument. If you're gonna go there, then away with white belts, air conditioning and Donald
   Trump (how DID he arrange for such difficult weather?)
On the whole (and especially for the price and as a walking venue), WPB will provide a good experience for the player. Those of you living in the PB area are fortunate to have it.

John,
I played there last Sunday am ($34.50 Golfnow)
The two locals I played with were lamenting the loss of the large trees.
The sandy areas are sadly slowly grassing in-they already look way different than the pictiures, and the locals allow teeing it up in the sandy areas (since they don't maintain them ::) ::) ::))

I completely understand mourning the loss of larger trees. It was hot as hell and certainly some shade would've been nice, esp with the reflective nature of the sandy areas.
I agree with you about the nonnative argument-a beautiful tree screening the blight that is south florida, that is not causing undue turf issues would seem a valuable commodity-who gives a crap if they are not native-especially since the native stuff is so unattractive. South Florida seems an odd place to worry about removing nonnative things all of a sudden ;)

Trees were an important part of the course(both strategically and aesthetically) I played the day after at Miami Springs, and trust me, I wouldn't want a good look at what they were screening.
They lost hundreds in a large tornado when I lived there years ago and trust me it wasn't attractive. Fortunately, they seem to have retained a lot of mature ones and  the ones gone aren't missed.
Moderation is a theme many miss in tree removal-or for that matter in tree planting ;) ;D
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 01:38:16 PM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

William_G

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thanks Mark the course looks great!
It's all about the golf!

Tom Yost

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Very odd for a Florida course, not a pond in sight!

Tom Kelly

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Green shaping is a highlight of the golf course, though green contouring is not.


Can you explain what you mean by this? How do you differentiate shaping and contouring, is it not the same thing?

At first glance the greens look quite interesting.

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