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JESII

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Re: Ice Damage At Augusta
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2014, 10:10:17 AM »
Pat,

I believe it's frequent thaws and freezes that caused the problems up here. The ice insulation was lost then reformed several times that winter.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Ice Damage At Augusta
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2014, 12:54:12 PM »
Pat,

I believe it's frequent thaws and freezes that caused the problems up here.

Snow and/or ice cover when the ground isn't frozen can lead to mold.


The ice insulation was lost then reformed several times that winter.

Jim, that's not what happened.

The snow melted, formed water, which froze and remained for long durations.

Thaws and freezes don't kill the plant, sustained freezing does.

"Extended ice cover of 45-60 days can lead to turfgrass death.  The extent of plant death or injury depends on the turfgrass species and the duration of ice cover. Ice problems usually occur in shaded areas or in depressions..."


And, Augusta, Georgia isn't going to experience 45-60 days of ice cover


jeffwarne

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Re: Ice Damage At Augusta
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2014, 12:56:47 PM »
They were  all transplanted northerners  ;) ;)saying "2 inches is no big deal-we can drive in our BMW's and Lincolns".
They call those DAMN Yankess ;) ;) ;D-they come to visit and never leave. ;)

Actually Jeff we call them hemorrhoids. If they come down then go back up they're okay but if they come down and stay they're a pain in the *ss.

Helpfully,

I'm sure there's a worse name for us southerners that move north and stay.
In a winter like this the word is stupid ;D
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Ice Damage At Augusta
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2014, 12:57:53 PM »
Patrick,
How much longer do you want me to stay in this tub of water? ;D

Since you can still type with your fingers, a little longer. ;D


Patrick_Mucci

Re: Ice Damage At Augusta
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2014, 01:08:59 PM »

Pat,
the thread is about ice at ANGC.
You say "no one's talking about an evening of ice"
Actually, everyone on the thread is talking about exactly that. ;D ;D

Jeff,

The problem when you skim read is that you miss posts.
Please reread post # 10 where I indicated that ANGC would NOT experience prolonged periods of ice.


ANGC is  located in Augusta, GA, hence the name-and hence the thread title.
So ice in Augusta, on the greens  will not hurt them because it will be gone in a day or two, and according to Mike Young that's often done in the south intentionally to insulate the grass, as well as often done by orange growers in Florida.


I stated that in reply # 10, but, as often happens, threads expand beyond their initial focus


You say "snow can insulate, but not ice"
When they spray their greens and orange trees, what exactly do you think forms?
Ice!!!-which insulates for a day or two while they wait for temps to return to normal.

Jeff, you need to reread reply # 10 or sign up for a "memory" course


Having ice on your greens all winter may well damage your greens in NJ or NY-that's not the case in GA as it doesn't happen.
Stick to New Jersey..,, or at least to a thread about NJ.
Not sure Seminole's ever had ice on their greens so perhaps we can work Pine Valley or NGLA into the conversation ;) ;D

and those idiots you saw sliding around on the ice in Atlanta during the last freezing ran event weren't from the south, the southerners were  comfortably inside sipping warm adult beverages .

They were  all transplanted northerners  ;) ;)saying "2 inches is no big deal-we can drive in our BMW's and Lincolns".

They call those DAMN Yankess ;) ;) ;D-they come to visit and never leave. ;)

The advantage is, when those particular "transplanted northerners" or "DAMN Yankees" move from New Jersey to Georgia, they increase the average intelligence of both States, dramatically. ;D ;D ;D


Putting on the green ink rainsuit... ;) ;) ;D ;D