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Joel_Stewart

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Tour players representing golf courses.
« on: February 10, 2014, 05:06:10 PM »
Switching back and forth this weekend between the regular and senior tour I was struck by how few tour players are sponsored by golf courses or resorts yet many senior players are sponsored.

I assume it's about money but even some of the lesser known players on the tour need money.

What PGA player represents a club?  

Arnold Palmer - Bay Hill
David Frost - Trump National
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 05:14:18 PM by Joel_Stewart »

BHoover

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2014, 05:16:02 PM »
Tom Watson - The Greenbrier
Graeme McDowell - Portrush
Lee Westwood - Wentworth
Ian Poulter - Woburn
All the guys who play out of Lake Nona and Isleworth
John Daly - any place where shirts and shoes are optional
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2014, 05:18:14 PM »
Mickelson -- Grayhawk Golf Club
DLIII -- Sea Island
Tom Watson, Kenny Perry -- Greenbrier

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Adam Warren

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2014, 05:23:56 PM »
I thought Phil was more associated with Whisper Rock?

Doesn't Faldo do some stuff for Greenbrier as well?

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2014, 05:34:27 PM »
Tom Watson - The Greenbrier
Graeme McDowell - Portrush
Lee Westwood - Wentworth

Lee has a tie up with Close House these days.
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BHoover

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2014, 05:35:47 PM »
Tom Watson - The Greenbrier
Graeme McDowell - Portrush
Lee Westwood - Wentworth

Lee has a tie up with Close House these days.

So does he no longer wear the Wentworth belt buckle?

Ryan Coles

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2014, 05:53:43 PM »
Don't think he ever did. The W is for Westwood junior academy.

Not sure if Mcilroy still represents Lough Erne.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 06:11:30 PM »
St. Andrews Beach dropped Geoff Ogilvy just before he won the U.S. Open.   :P   They made a lot of wrong moves!

It's not just the money on the players' side of the ledger.  Money is not flowing so freely from golf courses as sponsors now that housing-development golf is dead and buried.  If you want a player to represent your course, you hire him to design it.  If you hire one of us non-players to design the course, you're probably not in the market for a player to represent you on Tour.

Joel_Stewart

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2014, 07:00:25 PM »
Just to be clear, I'm talking about players who wear the logo on either shirts or hats.


Steve_ Shaffer

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Sam Morrow

Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2014, 08:42:22 PM »
There are more than you realize,  just Texans off the top of my head
Edward Load Lakewood
Tag Ridings Vaquero
Rod Pampling Old American
Nathan Green TPC Craig Ranch
Bobby Gates Carlton Woods


Mark Pearce

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 04:14:23 AM »
Lee Westwood - Wentworth
Perhaps this demonstrates why this doesn't happen much.  Close House must be loviing having spent all that money and soemone still thinks Westwood has a connection with a club I'm not sure he ever had a relationship with.
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 05:31:16 AM »
I think the days when all tour players got money for attachments has gone. We have about 20 pro's properly attached to our course, though not one on the European tour now. Some wear the logo clothing, some don't. We don't pay anyone, except we pay Gordon Brand jnr for the logo'ing of his clothing. I think even with a full European card you don't get much. It's all at the top but it is more geared to clothing and branding than of value to a golf course. You can do much better advertising wise these days than toss money into those caverns, but go back 30 years it did work.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
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Scott Warren

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 05:39:30 AM »
Sam Morrow,

Pampling and Green are not Texans, be it as it may that they have a home there.

Sam Morrow

Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2014, 06:46:32 AM »
Sam Morrow,

Pampling and Green are not Texans, be it as it may that they have a home there.
I know they aren't natives but they live here.

Mark Pearce

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 06:58:40 AM »
Adrian,

I'm pretty sure Westwood gets well rewarded for "endorsing" Close House.  To be fair, though, he does visit reasonably frequently and the membership think he engages well with them when he does.
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 07:27:05 AM »
Adrian,

I'm pretty sure Westwood gets well rewarded for "endorsing" Close House.  To be fair, though, he does visit reasonably frequently and the membership think he engages well with them when he does.
Lee Westwood is at the top end of the European Tour though, those players can provide value. Rewind 30 years if Tony Jacklin was attached to Tracy Park you automatically thought it had to be good so you visited. Now it more directs you to find out more and with the transparency of the internet we can kind of check out the course via its website, picture, flyovers etc. Internet is still that buzz word. It easily allows us to find our more. LW has acted as the 'home page'.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
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Trey Kemp

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 11:39:49 AM »
A few more:

Jimmy Walker - Cordillera Ranch
Harris English - Sea Island
Will McGirt - Bighorn
Will Mackenzie - The Dye Preserve
Scott Stallings - Diamond Creek
Wes Roach - Willow Creek
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Tom Kelly

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2014, 12:33:26 PM »
Do Els or Ross Fisher have any Wentworth branding on their kit?

Lots of European based pros are attached to Queenwood.

Sam Torrance and Paul McGinley are attached to Sunningdale, though I'm pretty sure they aren't sponsored as such.

Although they don't get him to wear their logo anywhere, Lindrick and Worksop both use Lee Westwood on their website and in advertising. Lindrick also has Danny Willett on their website. I'd be suprised if any money changed hands though, probably just courtesy of the of the course etc.

Jason Walker

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2014, 02:02:54 PM »
I think Heath Slocum and Troy Matteson (and maybe Kuchar) still sport Golf Club of Georgia logos on their bags.


Dan Kelly

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2014, 02:11:07 PM »
Rocco Mediate: Golden Valley Golf & Country Club (Golden Valley, Minnesota).
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Matthew Rose

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2014, 02:13:55 PM »
Wasn't Curtis Strange attached to Kingsmill and possibly Golden Horseshoe at one point?
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Ryan Coles

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2014, 05:04:07 PM »
I remember Jack Nicklaus on the TV all the time going on about 'Polaris World'.

Not heard of it since.

David_Tepper

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2014, 05:43:25 PM »
Scott Dunlap, on the Champions Tour, was recently seen on TV wearing a "Linksters Tap Room" shirt. ;)

http://www.linksterstaproom.com/

Greg Holland

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Re: Tour players representing golf courses.
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2014, 06:22:13 PM »
A few years back, Mathias Gronberg was here at the Wyndham Championship, and he wore a Sebonack shirt every day.