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Joe Bausch

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identify the golfers and even the golf course
« on: January 09, 2014, 11:23:25 AM »
The subject says it all!



And this picture is really worth more than a thousand words.  More on that later.
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 11:33:54 AM »
I can only say Ted Ray and Harry Vardon, the other three I don't know. Prestwick maybe the 1914 Open championship.
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 11:43:29 AM »
Agreed on Ray and Vardon, might that be Ouimet on the right?

The Country Club?
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 11:57:35 AM »
Quote from: Adrian_Stiff on January 09, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
I can only say Ted Ray and Harry Vardon, the other three I don't know. Prestwick maybe the 1914 Open championship.

Ray and Vardon are correct.  Not Prestwick.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 11:58:15 AM »
Quote from: Tony_Muldoon on January 09, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
Agreed on Ray and Vardon, might that be Ouimet on the right?

The Country Club?

Not Oiumet on the right.  Not The Country Club.
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 12:00:41 PM »
Quote from: Tony_Muldoon on January 09, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
Agreed on Ray and Vardon, might that be Ouimet on the right?

The Country Club?
Jock Hutchinson could be first on left, I suppose its Willie McFarlane era too so yes it could be USA.... I was think UK and that backdrop was Prestwick. Anything to do with Vardons exhibition at East Lake and Bobby Jones mentor Stewart?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 12:11:11 PM by Adrian_Stiff »
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 12:04:34 PM »
Quote from: Adrian_Stiff on January 09, 2014, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: Tony_Muldoon on January 09, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
Agreed on Ray and Vardon, might that be Ouimet on the right?

The Country Club?
Jock Hutchinson could be first on left, I suppose its Willie McFarlane era too so yes it could be USA.... I was think UK and that backdrop was Prestwick clubhouse.

Good names Jock and Willie, but neither are present in that pic!
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 12:19:36 PM »
is that a hill/mtn. in the right background?

Gleneagles?
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Sven Nilsen

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 12:31:48 PM »
I'm guessing this was taken as part of the Vardon/Ray tour of 1913 or their later tour in 1920.

Any chance A.W. is in this photo and it was taken at Shawnee?
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Mike Policano

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 12:37:07 PM »
Noe, is the middle gent, John McDermott?
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Sven Nilsen

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 12:47:08 PM »
Same day?

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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 12:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on January 09, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
is that a hill/mtn. in the right background?

Gleneagles?

A hill, I think.

Not Gleneagles.
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Jim Sherma

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2014, 12:55:39 PM »
That is McDermott on the right. This is taken at Shawnee CC after McDermott's victory in the Shawnee Open. Tillinhast told the story of his verbal faux pas. I forget the specifics but it is in Tales From the Links.

  
Quote from: Joe Bausch on January 09, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
The subject says it all!



And this picture is really worth more than a thousand words.  More on that later.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2014, 12:56:11 PM »
Quote from: Sven Nilsen on January 09, 2014, 12:31:48 PM
I'm guessing this was taken as part of the Vardon/Ray tour of 1913 or their later tour in 1920.

Any chance A.W. is in this photo and it was taken at Shawnee?

Tilly is not in the photo, but it was taken at Shawnee.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 12:57:23 PM »
Quote from: Mike Policano on January 09, 2014, 12:37:07 PM
Noe, is the middle gent, John McDermott?

No.  He's on the far right!
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2014, 12:59:06 PM »
Quote from: Jim Sherma on January 09, 2014, 12:55:39 PM
That is McDermott on the right. This is taken at Shawnee CC after McDermott's victory in the Shawnee Open. Tillinhast told the story of his verbal faux pas. I forget the specifics but it is in Tales From the Links.

  
Quote from: Joe Bausch on January 09, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
The subject says it all!



And this picture is really worth more than a thousand words.  More on that later.

Mr. Sherma is correct! 
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2014, 01:00:01 PM »
Quote from: Sven Nilsen on January 09, 2014, 12:47:08 PM
Same day?



Great pic Sven, but not the same day.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2014, 01:06:15 PM »
Don't know the location, but it looks like Johnny McDermott on the right.
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jeffwarne

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2014, 01:09:42 PM »
So Shawnee on Delaware
 Vardon, Ray, ? , Alex Smith, McDermott?
Who is in the middle?
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Jim Sherma

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2014, 01:18:25 PM »
Quote from: jeffwarne on January 09, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
So Shawnee on Delaware
 Vardon, Ray, ? , Alex Smith, McDermott?
Who is in the middle?

I think Alex Smith is in the middle. Is that Cyril Tolley on the left of the picture?
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2014, 01:24:07 PM »
Quote from: Jim Sherma on January 09, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
Quote from: jeffwarne on January 09, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
So Shawnee on Delaware
 Vardon, Ray, ? , Alex Smith, McDermott?
Who is in the middle?

I think Alex Smith is in the middle. Is that Cyril Tolley on the left of the picture?

Alex Smith is in the middle, but Wilfred Reid is on the left.

Tilly took this photo about 15 minutes after the 'incident'.  Perhaps the gap between JMac and the others makes sense.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: identify the golfers and even the golf course
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2014, 01:40:05 PM »
As I said in the initial post, that picture is worth a thousand words, or more.

The story of John McDermott is a fascinating one and fellow GCAer John Burnes continues to vigorously research him.  JMac is still the youngest winner in US Open history.

That picture is part of a article penned by Tillinghast for the April 23, 1916 edition of the Philadelphia Record newspaper.  The entire article is a great read and is below.

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