What's the most difficult

[William_G]

Trails

because it is awesome, most private feel at Bandon   

[John McCarthy]

Gib:  Butler has a set of short tees for the older crowd.  Makes the course rather playable.  6200 to 6300.  

[Chuck Glowacki]

with my game ALL courses are difficult!

[Gib_Papazian]

William,

At the age of 70, the idea of climbing #16 at Trails into a ripping gale - fresh from trying to beat a rescue club into #15 - would be a bit much in my dotage. I suppose playing first thing in the morning, before the wall of wind cranks up out of the north might be okay - but there are better choices. The drip drip drip of father time eventually (aside from Mucci) erodes your ability to compress the pellet. The last time I ballooned one on #16 at Trails, the fucking ball practically came back at me.

I'm going to throw up my hands at this point and assert that I'm not interested in playing hard courses past the age of 65. Let's just put a down payment on a cottage next to Westhampton and surrender to the inevitable. Truth be told, I will never, ever move to the East Coast - so our Ocean and Cliffs courses will have to do.

[David Davis]

Definitely my home course: Noordwijkse.

It's as tough as any. However, we also have dad's army tees now that don't require long carries and make it fun and pretty playable for the older high hcp crowd.

My opinion on a course like Pine Valley is that it's definitely too tough for all but a very exceptional few 60+'ers. Definitely a great experience to play once, twice or 10x but unless you are really a great player still at that age there are just too many long carries. I witnessed a very solid playing elderly gentleman really struggle out there from the front tees due to this.

I think a lot of courses are like that. I'd say Oakmont is the same. Way too tough IMO.

[cary lichtenstein]

The definition of difficult I take to mean a course that beats you  to death when you play either because it's beyond your skill level or  it's booby  trapped.  Few courses did that to me but I didn't enjoy any of them.

I'm sure multiple plays would have changed my mind somewhat as I learned to play the courses, but I was more than happy to leave and check it off forever

[Richard Hetzel]

delete delete

[BCowan]

Gib

    Your post is hilarious and i find it difficult to follow up.  

I will go with UofM, I could play it every day and not get tired of it.  So many interesting holes, blind tee shots, and many strategic choices.  It is a little difficult to walk for the older folk.  I would shorten some of the member tees.  The course gets better and better and I can't wait to see it when the renovation is completely done.  The course is 6600 from the tips and no one goes deep.  I can't wait to play Crystal next summer so i compare the two.  My game has been lost for 10 years, and I don't think i have broken 80 at UofM.  I wonder if Mr Mucci would like it?

[Patrick_Mucci]

Bcowan,

I like almost every course, I just like some better than others