Pat; we are in complete agreement. Three further points. First, if the member arrives inebriated, the barkeep should cut him off. The board and manager should make this policy clear. Second, even if he arrived drunk, if the member is served more liquor and then drives, dram shop liability may be implicated. Third, any employee who violates the policy should understand he may be terminated. This is particularly true for the valet who controls the keys.