Sean- There was a hole in one there by an employee. I think with equipment 280 is just fine. #8 at Oakmont is 290 and is a par three, i know the green doesn't sit up. Great suggestions. Trees between 3 and 4 will be planted to prevent people from going down 4 fairway. Ala #8 at Inverness.
Mr Riefs- I didn't mean to be sarcastic.
Matt- Yes, #18 at Inverness, #14 at Naples National, and many others
Jason- I went to OSU, so for me to love UofM like i do says a lot. Also i did a 4 page paper on the #6th hole and the person grading was glad i didn't pick #10 at Rivera (great hole, no offense). #6 at UofM doesn't get any TV Camera action.
I live 3 miles from there, think i am going to pop in and look at the other goodness to come.
Brian- I went to OSU and prefer UofM. I did love tree removal they did at OSU, but JN would of been last person. Look forward to playing it next summer. Some complain that the front at UofM has too many blind tee shots. I love that aspect, but many Americans don't.