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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Morning Drive
« on: December 02, 2013, 07:49:05 AM »
I'm sure this is old news around here, but in case it's not, It's Architecture Week on The Golf Channel's Morning Drive:  http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2013/12/1/a-few-great-architects-week-on-morning-drive.html
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2013, 08:04:39 AM »
oh my....
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2013, 08:07:23 AM »
oh my......
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 08:20:18 AM »
Nice opening segment with Bill Coore, too.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 08:26:20 AM »
Quote from: Jeff_Mingay on December 02, 2013, 08:20:18 AM
Nice opening segment with Bill Coore, too.

sorry I missed that-hope there's a replay
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Jim Franklin

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 08:52:24 AM »
I stayed home because the segment was so good. Bill Coore is a gentleman and I could listen to his stories all day.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 09:25:25 AM »
This strikes me as a pretty big deal and a positive step for this group's cause célèbre. Didn't now-MD anchor Charlie Rymer ask this board for some general programming ideas a couple years ago? And here we see an entire week of the show talking about architecture. We can bemoan the fact that GCA whipping posts like Rees Jones and Tom Fazio are going to be interviewed or we can be excited that architecture is gradually receiving greater exposure to a wide golf audience. I'm on board with the latter.

Great stuff.
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Kyle Casella

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 09:32:14 AM »
Looking forward to Wednesday with Gil and Tom...that should be a great segment!
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2013, 09:36:43 AM »
No Dye? Perhaps not able to travel to Orlando?
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Jason Thurman

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 09:44:18 AM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on December 02, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
No Dye? Perhaps not able to travel to Orlando?

I would've just assumed that he already lives there...

#OldPeopleLiveInFlorida Jokes
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Paul Carey

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2013, 10:09:36 AM »
Why do I think Greg Norman is full of s***?  Am I alone in that thought?
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Adam Clayman

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 11:42:57 AM »
Cabot Cliffs featured, with some viddy. Wow.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2013, 12:38:50 PM »
Quote from: Paul Carey on December 02, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
Why do I think Greg Norman is full of s***?  Am I alone in that thought?


I missed the Coore interview,
saw the Norman.portion........hence my earlier posts......

edit-just watched the Coore interviews-very impressive.

Incredibly refreshing humility-obviously a sense of patient evaluation and careful questioning of what is possible on a site.
quite a contrast
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2013, 03:57:57 PM »
Aired Monday, Dec. 2....

Bill Coore

“Dynamic duo: The Coore and Crenshaw partnership”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/dynamic-duo-coore-and-crenshaw-partnership/

“Sense of direction: Coore on course routing” (Discussion of Cabot Cliffs)
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/sense-direction-coore-course-routing/

“Coore on restoring Pinehurst No. 2: A ‘daunting’ task”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/coore-restoring-pinehurst-no-2-%E2%80%98daunting%E2%80%99-task/


Greg Norman

“Never say never: Norman talks course design career”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/never-say-never-norman-talks-course-design-career/

“Norman on the challenges of course design”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/norman-challenges-course-design/

“Norman: From player to course designer”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/norman-player-course-designer/

“Growing the game: Sustainable courses ‘crucial’ for China”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/growing-game-sustainable-courses-%E2%80%98crucial%E2%80%99-china/


Aired Tuesday, Dec. 3....

Rees Jones

"Rees Jones on Pinehurst Design"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/rees-jones-pinehurst-design/

"The 'Open Doctor': Rees Jones explains nickname"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/open-doctor-rees-jones-explains-nickname/


Jim Urbina

“Jim Urbina on Course Design”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/jim-urbina-course-design/

“Urbina's insight: Discussing architects Doak, Crenshaw, Hanse”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/jim-urbina-doaks-crenshaw-and-hanse-designs/



Aired Wednesday, Dec. 4....

Gil Hanse

“In the beginning: Hanse's road to course design”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/beginning-hanses-road-course-design/

“Olympian feat: Challenges to building Rio course”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/olympian-feat-challenges-building-rio-course/

“Hanse showcases Trump National Miami remodel”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/designer-hanse-showcases-trump-national-miami-remodel/


Tom Doak

“Love at first sight: Doak's passion for course design”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/love-first-sight-doaks-passion-course-design/

“Doak's thoughts: Course designer answers viewer questions”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/doaks-thoughts-course-designer-answers-viewer-questions/


Aired Thursday, Dec. 5....

Jack Nicklaus

“Jack Nicklaus on Golf Course Design”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/jack-nicklaus-golf-course-design/

“Keeping it simple”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/keeping-it-simple-nicklaus-his-new-golf-ball-line/

“Helpful hints: How to play one of Nicklaus' courses”
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/helpful-hints-how-play-one-nicklaus-courses/


Aired Friday, Dec. 6....

Tom Fazio

"A thing of beauty: Fazio discusses course design"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/thing-beauty-fazio-discusses-course-design/

"Unique design: Fazio on expansion at Pine Valley"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/unique-design-fazio-expansion-pine-valley/

"Then and now: Fazio on change in design over time."
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/then-and-now-fazio-change-design-over-time/


Bob Cupp

"Among friends: Cupp on American Society of Golf Course Architects"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/among-friends-cupp-american-society-golf-course-architects/

"Detail-oriented: Cupp on working with Kite and Couples"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/detail-oriented-cupp-working-kite-and-couples/

"Lady Liberty: Cupp on his design at Liberty National"
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/lady-liberty-cupp-his-design-liberty-national/

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Lyne Morrison

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2013, 04:36:40 PM »
Howard - thanks so much for these links, much appreciated.
Bill Coore is so impressive.
Could you possibly post the rest in due course?
Thanks, Lyne
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 04:54:07 PM »
Quote from: Lyne Morrison on December 02, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
Howard - thanks so much for these links, much appreciated.
Bill Coore is so impressive.
Could you possibly post the rest in due course?
Thanks, Lyne

Happy to provide.  I'll post the rest over the course of the week. 
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Bill Brightly

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 06:06:07 PM »
Thanks for posting, Howard! I had forgotten about these interviews.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2013, 06:09:32 PM »
would be very curious to know whether viewership this week is better or worse than usual
Obviously better amongst this 1500, but on viewership as a whole.
Any way to know this?
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2013, 07:32:51 PM »
Quote from: Tim Gavrich on December 02, 2013, 09:25:25 AM
This strikes me as a pretty big deal and a positive step for this group's cause célèbre. Didn't now-MD anchor Charlie Rymer ask this board for some general programming ideas a couple years ago? And here we see an entire week of the show talking about architecture. We can bemoan the fact that GCA whipping posts like Rees Jones and Tom Fazio are going to be interviewed or we can be excited that architecture is gradually receiving greater exposure to a wide golf audience. I'm on board with the latter.

Great stuff.

Good memory. A short two years ago:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,50554.0.html

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Dan Herrmann

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 08:05:20 PM »
I could spend weeks just listening to Mr. Coore.  What a great guy and role model.

Norman would be great for an hour, but his braggadocio would probably have me running for a quick getaway.  He had the audacity to claim his courses looked like they've been there for 20 years, however most all of the photos shown depicted cruddy landscape architecture that looked fake, fake, fake.

 
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Joel_Stewart

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 08:11:40 PM »
It was just a few months ago that Matt Ginella dished Ben Crenshaw as a partner at C&C.  He called his involvement something like limited.  Good to see him suck up to Bill Coore.
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Joel_Stewart

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 08:14:04 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Casella on December 02, 2013, 09:32:14 AM
Looking forward to Wednesday with Gil and Tom...that should be a great segment!

Since Tom is in China it should be interesting? 
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William_G

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2013, 08:30:08 PM »
thank you Howard!

love Coore
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Greg Holland

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 10:06:51 PM »
Quote from: Dan Herrmann on December 02, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
I could spend weeks just listening to Mr. Coore.  What a great guy and role model.

Norman would be great for an hour, but his braggadocio would probably have me running for a quick getaway.  He had the audacity to claim his courses looked like they've been there for 20 years, however most all of the photos shown depicted cruddy landscape architecture that looked fake, fake, fake.

 
As Mr. Coore said, it is a "hobby" or perhaps more appropriately a passion for he and Ben Crenshaw, and that came through loud and clear.  While Greg Norman talked, he said lots of the right things about environmental sensitivity and walking the virgin sites, but it seemed clear to me his forte is marketing, not design.  
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jeffwarne

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Re: Morning Drive
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2013, 10:33:56 PM »
Quote from: Greg Holland on December 02, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: Dan Herrmann on December 02, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
I could spend weeks just listening to Mr. Coore.  What a great guy and role model.

Norman would be great for an hour, but his braggadocio would probably have me running for a quick getaway.  He had the audacity to claim his courses looked like they've been there for 20 years, however most all of the photos shown depicted cruddy landscape architecture that looked fake, fake, fake.

 
As Mr. Coore said, it is a "hobby" or perhaps more appropriately a passion for he and Ben Crenshaw, and that came through loud and clear.  While Greg Norman talked, he said lots of the right things about environmental sensitivity and walking the virgin sites, but it seemed clear to me his forte is marketing, not design.  

I got the impression Norman felt he should get extra credit for walking the site ::)
Mr. Coore sounded like he wanted to learn more, not preach.
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