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Ruediger Meyer

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Letter of Introduction
« on: November 26, 2013, 05:38:59 PM »
Hi everybody,

like fellow newcomer Matt, I am a longtime reader of this site and finally decided to ask to be included into this fine group.

I think my addition to the group increases the number of german contributors by quite a margin, so I hope I'll be able to chime in regarding courses in this area. I am probably not the most architectural sound guy on these board,s but I realized while following the discussions, that my taste in golf courses mirrors a lot of the views in here, so I hope to fit right in.

I live in the northern part of germany, pay my bills as a journalist (though only on the side for a golf magazine) and run a german golf blog in my spare time. I'm a member of a small golf club no one in these forums has ever played and quite frankly, no one of you need to :-)

As far as famous golf architecture goes I just lost my Doak, Coore and MacKenzie virginity which is why I finally stopped worrying about being unqualified to post here and asked Ran to join your ranks.

I'm very excited to learn more about golf architecture from you guys and hope to meet a few of you in person. I almost joined you for the BUDA in the Netherlands since I know Ulrich Mayring from another golf forum, but unfortunately back problems stopped me this year from playing more than the occasional round of golf.

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Paul Gray

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 05:42:05 PM »
A very warm welcome from the south coast of England.

Nice to have a new face from a different golfing nation.
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Ricardo Ramirez Calvo

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 05:46:58 PM »
Herzlich willkommen, Rüdiger! Es ist immer gut mehr deutschsprachige Mitglieder zu haben. Viele Grüsse aus Argentinien.
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 05:51:34 PM »
Ruediger,

Coors or Coors Light?   ;)

Joe

P.S.  Welcome.  Your first post was very good and bodes well for your future contributions at this site.
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Brian Finn

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 05:51:55 PM »
Willkommen in der Baumhaus, Herr Meyer. Sie werden viel lernen und viel Spaß haben. Gibt es gute Deutsch Golfplatz Architekten?
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 05:54:08 PM »
How do you say "showoffs!" in German? (Emoticons omitted.)

Welcome, Herr Meyer. (Emoticons omitted.)
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Ricardo Ramirez Calvo

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 05:58:02 PM »
Quote from: Dan Kelly on November 26, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
How do you say "showoffs!" in German? (Emoticons omitted.)


"Vorführung" perhaps?  ;D
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 05:58:19 PM »
Quote from: Ruediger Meyer on November 26, 2013, 05:38:59 PM
As far as famous golf architecture goes I just lost my Doak, Coore and MacKenzie virginity which is why I finally stopped worrying about being unqualified to post here and asked Ran to join your ranks.

Herr Meyer:

Welcome!  But please be careful how you phrase certain things!  I think you intended to say that you have recently played one of my courses.  Which one?
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 06:03:36 PM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 26, 2013, 05:58:19 PM

Welcome!  But please be careful how you phrase certain things!

Is there a standard German expression meaning "buttboy"?

On a more serious note: My only real connection with Germany, sad to say, is World War II. My dad, a captain in the U.S. Army, ended the war as the commandant of a prison camp at Bad Aibling. I guess he must have been a decent fellow to his prisoners; years later, in a small town near here in Minnesota, he ran into one of his German captives -- who had come to America to be the maitre d' of a well-known inn here, and who greeted my dad with a loud and friendly greeting: "Mein Kapitän!" They became friends, here.

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Paul Gray

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 06:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 26, 2013, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: Ruediger Meyer on November 26, 2013, 05:38:59 PM
As far as famous golf architecture goes I just lost my Doak, Coore and MacKenzie virginity which is why I finally stopped worrying about being unqualified to post here and asked Ran to join your ranks.

Herr Meyer:

Welcome!  But please be careful how you phrase certain things!  I think you intended to say that you have recently played one of my courses.  Which one?

Tom,

In fairness he did write 'architecture,' rather than 'architects.'  ;D
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David_Tepper

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 06:10:53 PM »
Ruediger -

Welcome. Can you give us a link to your golf blog?

DT
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Tim Leahy

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 06:12:36 PM »
I have relatives in Dortmund. Are you anywhere near there?
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 06:15:08 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on November 26, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
Ruediger -

Welcome. Can you give us a link to your golf blog?

DT

I'm guessing this is it DP:

http://der-linksgolfer.de/impressum/
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David Davis

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 07:10:27 PM »
Ruediger,

Welkom vanuit Nederland waar wij allemaal redelijk Duits kunnen spreken maar alleen als je richting Noordwijk of Zandvoort komt voor een gezellig rondje golf.

I enjoy arguing with Ulrich. We don't see eye to eye on German golf or German architectural talent or lack thereof.

My opinion is lack thereof given that Germany is such a strong golf country it amazes me there are no top international architects coming from there. Please both enlighten and correct me if I'm wrong.

Colt being clearly the top architect in Germany.

Personally, I work 4 days a week in Munich these days so occasionally sample some golf down that way. It's very average with nice views of the alps.

I bet Ulrich has played your local club, he's sampled a lot in Germany and his gift of keeping stats is truly impressive to say the least - and very very German.

Hope you enjoy the treehouse!

 Ciao
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Terry Lavin

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 07:24:46 PM »
Quote from: Dan Kelly on November 26, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
How do you say "showoffs!" in German? (Emoticons omitted.)

Welcome, Herr Meyer. (Emoticons omitted.)

Das kann ich nicht sagen.

Sheesh, it's been 35 years since German classes in college!

Willkommen!
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 08:38:52 PM »
How is that course in Dusseldorf these days?   I played there last twenty years ago.  The rough was two feet deep!
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PCCraig

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2013, 10:39:24 PM »
Welcome!
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mike_beene

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 12:03:11 AM »
Welcome.Born in Wurzburg  and was a dual citizen for my first 20and 1/2 years. Had to choose at age 21 and since I don't speak German the West German military did not seem like a good option.
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Ruediger Meyer

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 02:05:52 AM »
Thanks for the very warm welcome, guys

Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 26, 2013, 05:58:19 PM

Herr Meyer:

Welcome!  But please be careful how you phrase certain things!  I think you intended to say that you have recently played one of my courses.  Which one?

I had the pleasure of going to Australia for four weeks and made it a priority to pay a visit to Barnbougle. Which is a good and a bad thing. Good, because it was probably the best golfing experience I ever had. And bad because my expectations for the next round on one of your courses is now sky-high.


Quote from: Tim Leahy on November 26, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
I have relatives in Dortmund. Are you anywhere near there?

Well, anything in germany is near compared to the US or Australia. But I live 300 km north of there which, for germany, doesn't fit the description.

Quote from: Joe Bausch on November 26, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
Quote from: David_Tepper on November 26, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
Ruediger -

Welcome. Can you give us a link to your golf blog?

DT

I'm guessing this is it DP:

http://der-linksgolfer.de/impressum/

Yeah, that's the one

Quote from: David Davis on November 26, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
I enjoy arguing with Ulrich. We don't see eye to eye on German golf or German architectural talent or lack thereof.

My opinion is lack thereof given that Germany is such a strong golf country it amazes me there are no top international architects coming from there. Please both enlighten and correct me if I'm wrong.

Colt being clearly the top architect in Germany.

I think I'm with you on this one. The best known currently working is probably David Krause, but my experiences with his courses didn't exactly woo me. He did a few decent ones, but I downright hated WinstonLinks which you posted in another topic.

Rolf-Stephan Hansen did a marvellous piece with Budersand, but I think he only did one or two other courses which I haven't played.

And then there's Bernhard Langer, but that's a topic for another day  ;D

Quote from: Bill_McBride on November 26, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
How is that course in Dusseldorf these days?   I played there last twenty years ago.  The rough was two feet deep!

You have to be a bit more specific. We are a small golfing country, but the area of Dusseldorf has quite a few courses


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Brent Carlson

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 02:57:26 AM »
Herrn Meyer,

Willkommen beim Forum.  Ich hoffe dass hier alles Dir gut passt.

Selbst habe Ich vier Monate in Wolfsburg gewohnt - viel Spass gehabt.  Welche deutsche Golfplätze empfehlest Du?

Dir hoffe Ich alles gut geht.

Beste Gruesse,

Brent
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 05:52:40 AM »
Quote from: Paul Gray on November 26, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
Tom,
In fairness he did write 'architecture,' rather than 'architects.'  ;D

Plus One...Losing one's "_____ virginity," while not a turn of phrase that I prefer to read or ever consider saying, is definitely a "thing" I've encountered herein and certainly implies nothing beyond playing an architect's course for the first time.
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David Davis

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2013, 08:23:36 AM »
Quote from: Ruediger Meyer on November 27, 2013, 02:05:52 AM
Thanks for the very warm welcome, guys

Quote from: David Davis on November 26, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
I enjoy arguing with Ulrich. We don't see eye to eye on German golf or German architectural talent or lack thereof.

My opinion is lack thereof given that Germany is such a strong golf country it amazes me there are no top international architects coming from there. Please both enlighten and correct me if I'm wrong.

Colt being clearly the top architect in Germany.

I think I'm with you on this one. The best known currently working is probably David Krause, but my experiences with his courses didn't exactly woo me. He did a few decent ones, but I downright hated WinstonLinks which you posted in another topic.

Rolf-Stephan Hansen did a marvellous piece with Budersand, but I think he only did one or two other courses which I haven't played.

And then there's Bernhard Langer, but that's a topic for another day  ;D


I guess David Krause is Canadian. At least that's what Ulrich told me if I'm not mistaken.
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Ruediger Meyer

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2013, 08:46:03 AM »
Oh, you're right David. Since he has a practice in Germany and a german-sounding name I never questioned his nationality...

That leaves probably Thomas Himmel as the most prolific german architect due to his work at Son Gual.
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Ulrich Mayring

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2013, 02:13:30 PM »
Welcome Rüdiger <== you'll get a real "Umlaut" from me

the first rule on this board is to not listen to David Davis. He is Dutch (somewhat), full of lofty ideas and, frankly, has lost any grip on reality since he played Pine Valley and Cypress Point :)

Seriously, I can endorse Rüdiger to the group, he has the best golf blog that I know at http://der-linksgolfer.de/. Now, before you go to his site, the blog is in German and "Linksgolfer" does not mean what you think, it means "Left-Handed Golfer". And anyway, the guy is a little crazy, just look at his subway map:

http://der-linksgolfer.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Golf-Majors-Subway_2013.pdf

But to his credit, he wrote the diary of Tiger Woods for a while, that was one of the most hilarious columns I've read:

http://der-linksgolfer.de/category/satire/

Again, welcome to the jungle.

Ulrich
« Last Edit: November 29, 2013, 02:16:15 PM by Ulrich Mayring »
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: Letter of Introduction
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »
Welcome Rudiger from a half-German living in the States (my family has been in the States since about 1840)

Glad you're a left handed golfer.  Just be careful if you ever play Merion East - that first tee for a leftie can be pretty scary! :)
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