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Jason Topp

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2013, 11:49:29 PM »

Wow! I would think that most that venture to Minneapolis for golf have their sights set on Interlachen and Hazeltine... and it seems they're missing out on a whole bunch of more interesting courses.

Thanks for posting Jason and Rick.

You cannot underestimate the value of playing courses where history was made.  I would have the same tendency when visiting other cities.  Nonetheless, since I have played Hazeltine and Interlachen many times, there are other courses I like better.

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2013, 02:23:55 AM »
Greater Manchester, England.

1=  Reddish Vale
1=  Manchester (Hopwood)  

      then a gap...

3    Stockport
4    Heaton Park
5    North Manchester
6    Bolton Old Links
7    Romiley
8    Bramhall Park
9    Dunham Forest
10  Worsley


In the immediate outlying areas we have some fabulous courses. In no particular order;


Pleasington
Clitheroe
Wilmslow
Prestbury
Sandiway
Delamere Forest

« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 02:26:30 AM by Duncan Cheslett »

Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2013, 04:59:42 AM »
Town of Southampton-population 56,000  (not the village-pop 3100)
In no order 1-10
Westhampton
Quogue Field Club
Southampton GC
Shinnecock
NGLA
Noyack
The Bridge
Sebonack
Bridgehampton Club
Atlantic
+
Sag Harbor GC
Poxybogue
3 Ponds
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Jeff:  I would toss Quogue and add Hampton Hills which I believe is still Southampton town

Greg Gilson

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2013, 05:21:57 AM »
I'll get in with my FAVOURITES before most in the US get to their laptops:

(1)Kingston Heath
(2)RM West
(3)Victoria
(4)RM East
(5)Woodlands
(6)Yarra Yarra (Home Club...gets bonus points)
(7)Peninsula North
(8)Commonwealth
(9)Peninsula South
(10)Metropolitan

Steve Kline

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2013, 05:55:51 AM »
I can't go ten deep in Cincinnati, but here is my list. Really, only the first three would I make any effort to play. I would drop everything to play Camargo, make some effort to rearrange things for Hyde Park, and would take an offer to play Clovernook before anything else. After that, if I didn't have to pay I would play them.

Camargo
Hyde Park
Clovernook
Stonelick Hills
Coldstream
Kenwood - Kendale
Maketewah (haven't seen it since a bunch of changes were made a couple of years ago)

Tom Kelly

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2013, 06:11:43 AM »
My home town of Nottingham;

1. Notts (Hollinwell)
2. Sherwood Forest
3. Lindrick
4. Coxmoor
5. Worksop
6. Longcliffe (in Leicestershire but closer to the city centre than most of the courses above!)

Gap in quality

7. Wollaton
8. Radcliffe-on-Trent (should be better imo...slight bias)

Another Gap

9. Ruschcliffe
10. Mapperley


Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2013, 06:28:17 AM »
I’ll have a go at this…

I’m going for Greater Dublin / County Dublin, population approx. €1.8m

1.   Portmarnock
2.   The Island
3.   Portmarnock Links
4.   Royal Dublin
5.   Luttrelstown
6.   The Castle
7.   Corballis
8.   Hermitage
9.   St.Annes
10.   Beaverstown (purely for the greens). Otherwise The Grange

Ricardo Ramirez Calvo

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2013, 06:52:29 AM »
Buenos Aires, Argentina (in no particular order):

1) Olivos
2) Jockey Club Red
3) Buenos Aires Golf Club
3) Nordelta
4) Martindale
5) Hurlingham Club
6) San Andrés
7) Praderas
8) Ranelagh
9) Estancias
10) Pingüinos

 
Ricardo

Ben Kodadek

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2013, 06:54:14 AM »
Tampa/Orlando
-no particular order

Old Memorial
Streamsong Red
Streamsong Blue
Palma Ceia
Interlachen
Pine Barrens
Mountain Lake (a geographical stretch)
CC of Orlando
Isleworth
Copperhead

Southern Dunes, Lake Nona, and Rolling Oaks could also contend.  

Matt Glore

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2013, 07:24:47 AM »
New Orleans Louisiana

1 Metairie CC
2 New Orleans CC
3 TPC Louisiana
4 English Turn
5 Lakewood CC
6 getting difficult now- Oak Harbor
7 Stonebridge
8 Chateau CC


Keith OHalloran

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2013, 07:34:38 AM »
Town of Southampton-population 56,000  (not the village-pop 3100)
In no order 1-10
Westhampton
Quogue Field Club
Southampton GC
Shinnecock
NGLA
Noyack
The Bridge
Sebonack
Bridgehampton Club
Atlantic
+
Sag Harbor GC
Poxybogue
3 Ponds
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Jeff:  I would toss Quogue and add Hampton Hills which I believe is still Southampton town
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Chuck,
I would not agree with taking Quogue out of the list, and having read some of what Jeff has written on GCA, I bet he doesn't either!  ;D

jeffwarne

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2013, 07:47:57 AM »
Town of Southampton-population 56,000  (not the village-pop 3100)
In no order 1-10
Westhampton
Quogue Field Club
Southampton GC
Shinnecock
NGLA
Noyack
The Bridge
Sebonack
Bridgehampton Club
Atlantic
+
Sag Harbor GC
Poxybogue
3 Ponds
[/quot

Jeff:  I would toss Quogue and add Hampton Hills which I believe is still Southampton town
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Chuck,
I would not agree with taking Quogue out of the list, and having read some of what Jeff has written on GCA, I bet he doesn't either!  ;D

you can add Hampton Hills to my + list, but not to my hometown top 10.
and Goat Hill and Gardiners Bay, despite not being governed by Southampton Town, are only a few miles by sea, and much faster for me to reach than Southampton Club from Sag Harbor.

But if we can include World Woods and Streamsong on the same "hometown" list, (2 hours apart)
my list would look quite a bit different with the inclusion of Winged Foot ,Friar's Head, Maidstone and the rest of Long Island and the dozens + courses that would blow away most lists  ;D.
I thought I was taking liberties with the use of Southampton "Town" rather than the village ;) ;D
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

archie_struthers

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2013, 07:59:17 AM »
 ??? ???

Best courses in Atlantic City


IMO

Galloway National


Atlantic City
Greate Bay
Hidden Creek
Twisted Dune.


Note.  Might be slight bias , slight

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2013, 08:03:37 AM »
You'd put Cherry Hill behind Stafford?

I presume you've played Stafford?
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2013, 08:06:00 AM »
Gotta have Niagara Falls CC in there. I would also include Whirlpool and Wanakah and possibly OPCC, but can't argue with the top 3 at all.

I love the Porter Cup but the front nine of the course does absolutely nothing for me. Wanakah has too many flat holes and is defined by the interruption of trees. Whirlpool maybe, Orchard Park butchered two Travis holes, although the Ian Andrew work is promising.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2013, 08:14:11 AM »
Jeff:  Let's consider "your city" as the five east end towns (Riverhead, Southold, Southampton, East Hampton and Shelter Island)
        which from your location in Sag Harbor and mine in Southold would be within an hour's drive or less.  What say you now?

Phil Lipper

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2013, 08:20:00 AM »
If I consider "my city" as northern Bergen County NJ and Southern Rockland County NY
Ridgewood
Hackensack
Manhattan Woods
Paramount
Arcola
nothing else worthy of the list

jeffwarne

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2013, 08:21:57 AM »
Jeff:  Let's consider "your city" as the five east end towns (Riverhead, Southold, Southampton, East Hampton and Shelter Island)
        which from your location in Sag Harbor and mine in Southold would be within an hour's drive or less.  What say you now?

Who wouldn't want to add Friar's Head, Maidstone, and Goat Hill to their Top 10 list ;) ;) ;D
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2013, 08:34:56 AM »
Jeff:  Let's consider "your city" as the five east end towns (Riverhead, Southold, Southampton, East Hampton and Shelter Island)
        which from your location in Sag Harbor and mine in Southold would be within an hour's drive or less.  What say you now?

Who wouldn't want to add Friar's Head, Maidstone, and Goat Hill to their Top 10 list ;) ;) ;D

and one of my personal faves Indian Island

jeffwarne

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2013, 08:36:59 AM »
Jeff:  Let's consider "your city" as the five east end towns (Riverhead, Southold, Southampton, East Hampton and Shelter Island)
        which from your location in Sag Harbor and mine in Southold would be within an hour's drive or less.  What say you now?

Who wouldn't want to add Friar's Head, Maidstone, and Goat Hill to their Top 10 list ;) ;) ;D

and one of my personal faves Indian Island

Touche-good catch
now's the season -when are we going?
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Steve Lapper

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2013, 08:45:23 AM »
If I consider "my city" as northern Bergen County NJ and Southern Rockland County NY
Ridgewood
Hackensack
Manhattan Woods
Paramount
Arcola
nothing else worthy of the list

Phil,

  Wouldn't you think about substituting Alpine for Manhattan Woods???
The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."--John Kenneth Galbraith

Brad Tufts

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2013, 09:14:51 AM »
Boston, in order, within 25 miles, in my opinion:

Essex
Myopia
TCC (really interchangable with the above two)
Old Sandwich
Boston GC
Salem CC
Winchester
Concord CC (neck and neck with Winch)
Charles River
Brae Burn
Tedesco

In my Mass. rankings, Tedesco is #17...so Kittansett, Taconic, Eastward Ho, Longmeadow, Oyster Harbors, and Plymouth slot in amongst the above.  My next Boston-area course after Tedesco is Black Rock at #21 (Oak Hill, Vesper, Orchards slot in between).  Among Boston-area courses, the only prominent private courses I have not seen are Belmont and Cohasset.  In Mass. as a whole, I have not seen the Nantucket courses, Woods Hole, Worcester,  Blue Hill and a few other lesser ones.

Boston publics are a bit harder, as most of our high-end publics are in Central/Western Mass or on the Cape...too far to be considered "Boston area":

George Wright (Ross)
South Shore CC (Stiles)
Franklin Park (Ross and others before him)
Butter Brook (Mungeam)
Beverly Golf & Tennis (Stiles, maybe some Tull)
Sandy Burr (Ross)
Gannon Municipal (Stiles)
Granite Links (Sanford)
Brookline GC (Stiles)
Really stretching here as there just aren't many candidates....Fresh Pond (Walter Johnson) and Salem Muni (Stiles) are decent 9-holers but not very exciting.  Ponkapoag, if ever restored in any way would be pretty good...there are/were 18 Ross holes out there, but it might be America's worst-maintained 36 holes...which may be 27 today as I believe they have let one 9 go...unfortunately I'm pretty sure it was one of the Ross 9s.





So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Tim Martin

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2013, 09:36:02 AM »
Hartford
1. Shuttle Meadow
2. Wampanoag
3. CC of Farmington
4. Wethersfield CC
5. Hartford GC

Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2013, 09:46:35 AM »
Bristol
1. The Players Club
2. The Kendleshire
3. Long Ashton
4. Bristol & Clifton
5. Henbury

Bath
1. Cumberwell Park R&Y
2. Cumberwell Park B&O
3=Kingsdown
3=Bath
5. Saltford
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com

Jim Sherma

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Re: Best courses in your city
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2013, 09:51:10 AM »
Harrisburg and Central PA (I am constraining this to 30 or so miles from Harrisburg/Hershey)
No order or preference is implied within the individual groupings

Top 3 and a half - very very good and something that is worth traveling for

Hershey West
Lancaster CC
CC of York
Lebanon CC (Back 9)

Next Tier - would recommend to everyone on GCA but likely not worth a longer trip by themselves

Hershey East
West Shore CC
Hershey Links and Hershey Parkview (both now NLE were in this tier)
Harrisburg CC - very quirky and interesting, early Flynn although not much left on the ground other than the routing, a lot of guys don't like it but I find that the blind shots and uneven lies make for a fun challenge

Still good and worth a day out - definitely some interest and some might really like them

Lebanon CC (Front 9 - still good, but the back is over much more interesting land)
Colonial CC
Dauphin Highlands
Royal Manchester (York, PA)
Iron Valley (Not to my taste but many like it - PB Dye)
Royal Oaks (When it's in decent shape there is some interesting golf out there)

Others that did not make the list for various reasons:

I did not include Schuylkill since it was a little outside of the range I chose - also, I have real problems with a couple of the new greens that they put in as I feel that they are very much out of character with the Ross/Park Jr course they were built upon
 
The Lancaster area has Conestoga CC and Bent Creek CC that could make the list but I have not played them at this point

I have not played Carlisle Country Club and have heard decent enough reviews to want to play it, but would be surprised if it blew me away

Outdoor Country Club of York is a course that I have heard mixed reviews about but with enough pretty good ones to get me down there at some point

The area has a good amount of decent public options, but none of them are anything special and generally are Ault/Clark or William and David Gordon somewhat generic and competent public courses that when they are in decent shape are perfectly fine and reasonably challenging places to play. However they really don't have anything special of interest to offer beyond that (Manada, Monroe Valley, Armitage, Fairview, and Cool Creek are some of the better ones).

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