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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2013, 03:15:01 PM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Nick Cauley

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2013, 03:17:31 PM »
6th at Lookout Mountain
2nd at Colorado Golf Club
3rd at Ballyneal
5th at Bandon Trails
2nd at Prairie Dunes
3rd at Pine Dunes
15th Whispering Pines


Chris DeToro

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2013, 03:19:49 PM »
That other little hole in Monterey is pretty damn pretty too

Charlie Gallagher

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2013, 03:44:51 PM »
Tim Weiman and I are apparently out on an island about Ballybunions #8, but it is  a superbly strategic hole given that the prevailing wind usually blows across it, or from behind, bringing the evil left side bunkers into play. It's a marvelous hole.

Steve Lapper

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2013, 03:51:06 PM »
Though this list has been well-covered, a few special gems remain missing:

Somerset Hills #12
Eastward Ho#15
Cabot Links #14
WFE#13
Yeamans Hall#3


And my perennial favorite: Myopia #9...which Mark Saltzman myopically viewed as behind #12 at TCC ;)

My other favorites would well include the likes of Sand Hills #17; CPC#15; Kingston Heath#10; Royal Dornoch#10; Shinny#11; Plainfield #11; Maidstone#14; PVGC#10; LACC#15; Friars Head#17;# RMW#7; Prairie Dunes#2


All the above are so diabolically placed that I'd wager a good number that few amateurs of any caliber could play par across the list under normal, everyday playing conditions found at each.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2013, 03:58:50 PM »
Minikahda No. 3.

Sutton Bay (original course) No. 2

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Peter Pratt

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2013, 04:25:16 PM »
Crystal Downs #14
Sand Hills #17

Peter Pratt

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2013, 04:27:36 PM »
Yeamans Hall #3
Pacific Dunes #11
Franklin Hills #9

William_G

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2013, 05:18:14 PM »
nice pics Kyle, awesome!

#2 at PD is a tough golf hole  8)
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Chris DeToro

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2013, 05:27:03 PM »
see this is where it gets interesting...number 8 @ TOC is called "Short" but it's really not that short yardage wise...

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2013, 05:36:05 PM »
nice pics Kyle, awesome!

#2 at PD is a tough golf hole  8)

It plays easier after a little Sine Qua Non.

Greg Tallman

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2013, 05:59:42 PM »
Shame on you Kyle for not posting this one


Ocean Course #7
Plays from 99 to 138 yards

Sean_A

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2013, 06:05:55 PM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Thats the point for me, can't normally hit full wedge.  Short 3s are interesting partly because they are awkward.  I would rather hit between an 8 and a 9 rather than have to muck around with a part wedge.

Ciao
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K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2013, 06:11:21 PM »
Shame on you Kyle for not posting this one

Ocean Course #7
Plays from 99 to 138 yards

Greg,
Definitely not omitted due to quality.  My girlfriend was behind the camera and didn't take any photos in the right direction.  I can offer this shot of the tee box.  We need to get back sometime soon so that she can try again!


Greg Tallman

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2013, 06:13:00 PM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Thats the point for me, can't normally hit full wedge.  Short 3s are interesting partly because they are awkward.  I would rather hit between an 8 and a 9 rather than have to muck around with a part wedge.

Ciao

Agree with Sean. In our recent college event I moved the tees on the hole pictired above up front and put a short right pin near the bunker and the ridge. hole played about 90 yards and scores ranged from 2s to 6s. Fun stuff to watch especially the guys that missed it about 8-10 feet left and watch their ball feed left then catch the false front and almost end up on the beach.

Greg Tallman

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2013, 06:19:40 PM »
Shame on you Kyle for not posting this one

Ocean Course #7
Plays from 99 to 138 yards

Greg,
Definitely not omitted due to quality.  My girlfriend was behind the camera and didn't take any photos in the right direction.  I can offer this shot of the tee box.  We need to get back sometime soon so that she can try again!



There is only one reason to take a photo from that angle... at least you now know she has a fondness for your back side!

Philip Caccamise

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »
Surprised nobody has mentioned this one (probably my personal favorite played):



Picture courtesy of Mr. Bausch.

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2013, 04:28:25 AM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Thats the point for me, can't normally hit full wedge.  Short 3s are interesting partly because they are awkward.  I would rather hit between an 8 and a 9 rather than have to muck around with a part wedge.

Ciao

Agree with Sean. In our recent college event I moved the tees on the hole pictired above up front and put a short right pin near the bunker and the ridge. hole played about 90 yards and scores ranged from 2s to 6s. Fun stuff to watch especially the guys that missed it about 8-10 feet left and watch their ball feed left then catch the false front and almost end up on the beach.

Agree in principle.

But if we are only discussing holes under 120 yards, then we may as well start the thread again. The classic Postage Stamp is out for a start.

That said, my 96 yard Fairy Dell from North West is still well under the barrier. And all the scarier for it.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2013, 04:45:12 AM »
Having viewed Mark Saltzmans Bandon Preserve photo tour there are now 13 more short par-3's on my list  -http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,57218.0.html
All the best

Ben Stephens

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2013, 04:57:41 AM »
4th at Rutland Water Golf Course :)

Uphill 120 yard par three to a narrow and long green. Miss it then you have a tough up and down!

« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 06:39:47 AM by Ben Stephens »

Rich Goodale

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2013, 07:22:52 AM »
The coolest short three I have played from the modern era is the 11th(?) at Hanse's Applebrook  ~120 to a tiny pinnacle green dropping off sharply on all sides.
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Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2013, 08:18:10 AM »
NGLA #6 it is called Short so I guess it qualifies

Dan Kelly

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2013, 12:17:25 PM »
Woodhill has a dandy little volcano hole that I loved 40 years Go. Details from someone who has been there recently?
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Sean_A

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Re: Best short par 3's
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2013, 12:27:01 PM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Thats the point for me, can't normally hit full wedge.  Short 3s are interesting partly because they are awkward.  I would rather hit between an 8 and a 9 rather than have to muck around with a part wedge.

Ciao

Agree with Sean. In our recent college event I moved the tees on the hole pictired above up front and put a short right pin near the bunker and the ridge. hole played about 90 yards and scores ranged from 2s to 6s. Fun stuff to watch especially the guys that missed it about 8-10 feet left and watch their ball feed left then catch the false front and almost end up on the beach.

Agree in principle.

But if we are only discussing holes under 120 yards, then we may as well start the thread again. The classic Postage Stamp is out for a start.

That said, my 96 yard Fairy Dell from North West is still well under the barrier. And all the scarier for it.

ALly

Does all architecture need to be viewed from the back tees?  When will the time come that folks automatically reference the daily tees?  I spose even amongst striving archies they want to see courses stretched to their limits - the pressure to do so must be immense.  In any case, 123 yards from Champ tees qualifies as ~120 yards  8).

Ciao
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best short par 3's New
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2013, 02:06:07 PM »
Chris

I think of a proper short par 3 as certainly less than ~120 yards.

Ciao

Little restrictive Sean. I'd go with under 140 I think.

Thats the point for me, can't normally hit full wedge.  Short 3s are interesting partly because they are awkward.  I would rather hit between an 8 and a 9 rather than have to muck around with a part wedge.

Ciao


Agree with Sean. In our recent college event I moved the tees on the hole pictired above up front and put a short right pin near the bunker and the ridge. hole played about 90 yards and scores ranged from 2s to 6s. Fun stuff to watch especially the guys that missed it about 8-10 feet left and watch their ball feed left then catch the false front and almost end up on the beach.

Agree in principle.

But if we are only discussing holes under 120 yards, then we may as well start the thread again. The classic Postage Stamp is out for a start.

That said, my 96 yard Fairy Dell from North West is still well under the barrier. And all the scarier for it.

ALly

Does all architecture need to be viewed from the back tees?  When will the time come that folks automatically reference the daily tees?  I spose even amongst striving archies they want to see courses stretched to their limits - the pressure to do so must be immense.  In any case, 123 yards from Champ tees qualifies as ~120 yards  8).

Ciao

No Sean. It doesn't and it isn't. Postage stamp still out from daily tees as are 90 percent of examples on this thread.

I'm all for really short par threes (I've just built a 125 yard one myself) but I just disagree with your ceiling. Even 140 yards rules out 50 percent above.

No matter though. It was a passing comment.

EDIT: Actually I've changed my mind. Let's call it 120 from the back and stop these endless lists that just come down to personal plays seeing as there are far too many good examples to choose from and no real sense of critical analysis
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 02:17:38 PM by Ally Mcintosh »