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Richard_Mandell

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4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« on: October 02, 2013, 09:17:55 AM »
The Symposium On Affordable Golf raises awareness and understanding of the challenges of the golf industry through open discussion, exchange of ideas and highlighting successes that promote the health and sustainability of the game of golf and the business of golf.
 
But nothing happens without your involvement! The more golfers (industry-connected or not) that can participate in the 4TH SYMPOSIUM ON AFFORDABLE GOLF, the more great ideas can be shared.
 
The Symposium is scheduled for Monday and Tuesday, October 28th and 29th at Southern Pines Golf Club in Southern Pines, North Carolina.  Registration is free and the knowledge shared is priceless. If needed, continuing education is free for golf professionals and golf course superintendents.
 
Come be a part of the solution.  Share ideas with Ron Whitten of Golf Digest and Greg Lyman, Environmental Programs Director of the GCSAA as well as Chuck Bennell, President of Tam O'Shanter Golf Course. Listen to golf architect Andy Staples and superintendent/irrigation consultant Don Mahaffey challenge the establishment on the subject of over-designing irrigation systems.  Dan Costello of CaddieMaster goes toe to toe with Kris Shreiner on the oldest profession in the business, caddying.
 
What makes the Symposium different from other industry conferences is that the golfer is an integral part of the discussion.  Come be a part of this discussion.  Sign up today as attendance is limited.  Visit www.symposiumonaffordablegolf.com to register now. Call 910-255-3111 with any questions.

Also, if you haven't already, please take a moment to take our survey, The Golf Experience - Your Way. So far, over 800 respondents have shared their thoughts on the game of golf.

Thanks,

Richard Mandell

Neil_Crafter

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 05:13:30 PM »
Sounds great Richard. Wish I could be in NC for it! Hope it goes well for you.
cheers Neil

PCCraig

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 06:33:14 PM »
I wish I could make it, but I can't this year. Would be worth it just for your presentation on WBYC! Hope it goes well.
H.P.S.

Richard_Mandell

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 09:21:36 AM »
Thanks for the support, guys.  We have 82 registrants, hoping to break the 100 barrier. We are also in need of about 145 more participants in our survey to get to 1,000.  http://s.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22EG9LPVMXR

Carl Rogers

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 04:27:13 PM »
I am interested in playing other courses  in the area before or after ... contact if interested.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

Sam Morrow

Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »
Great line up, its worth the price of admission just to hear Don.

Don_Mahaffey

Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 09:54:52 PM »
Sam, since its free to get in...I see what you did there

Sam Morrow

Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 10:03:26 PM »
Sam, since its free to get in...I see what you did there
But it can be time consuming to get to Pinehurst and time = money. Last time I compliment you. ;)

Richard_Mandell

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 08:44:37 AM »
I have grappled with charging at least something to attend just to avoid this situation. :)

Carl Rogers

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 01:01:15 PM »
Now that the Symposium is over, I am surprised that this thread has yet to be returned to the front page ....

Richard, I enjoyed it all and appreciate your patience with me.  A fee to offset costs is reasonable.

My take away observations of it are the following: (please remember that I am just a golfer whose view of the the game is from the worm's eye view looking up)
1. the Symposium was more about the question of the game being Affordable for whom? ... the golfer?, the golf course owner?, the golf architect?, the real estate developer?, the super?, the irrigation contractor, the aspiring caddie?  Is the game at this point a zero sum affair??
2. the governing bodies, tour pros, equipment mfr's and the top 1% of clubs are doing great ... never been better
3. Mr. Whitten's comments about the trevails of being a golf course owner will make me more sympathetic to the challenges that the owner's of the golf courses I frequent.  The corporate outing scrambles, that I do not like, may actually subsidize the golf I play.
4. Though I got involved in the game through caddieing, my experience (or perhaps imperfect memory of my life long ago) of being a caddy was very mixed.   At Wellesley CC, outside of Boston, I was 12 at the time, often exploited and basically treated as a cockroach. Mr. Shreiner, a very engaging and likeable individual, has a romantic view of the caddy that I cannot share.
5. The perception of elitism of the game has as much to do with the ability to play the game as it does with the means to pay for the game.
6. 4800 yard course lengths make sense.

Finally, I live in Tidewater Virginia 10 minutes from an early Doak course and fairly close to a variety reasonably OK courses that do not break the bank.  For that reason, I have never felt the need to join a private club (get lots of invites).  For me the game has never been better.

I hope for some more comments...
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 01:25:38 PM by Carl Rogers »
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Dan Kelly

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 01:42:21 PM »
Rich --

Will you be posting any transcripts or tapes of the presentations?

Dan
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Richard_Mandell

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Re: 4th Symposium on Affordable Golf
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 11:07:17 AM »
Carl,

Thanks for the comments on the SOAG and, especially, your activism while there.  To answer your first item, the answer is a simple YES.

Dan,

We do plan on posting video and ppt presentations ion the SOAG website in due time (www.symposiumonaffordablegolf.com).  In wrap-up discussions after the SOAG with others, I have concluded the best approach for the movement is to get the website much more interactive.  In addition to the above, in the future we will have numerous articles from past attendees discussing their takeaways from past SOAGs and also giving anecdotal evidence of how what they have learned has been put into play at their facilities, if any.

Of course, this effort takes time that we don't necessarily have at the moment, so it may take a while.  But I do think that it is time to take the next step with the SOAG, and that begins with the website.  If anyone out there wants to donate some time and expertise to expanding the website, I am not against taking the help.

We are also planning to take the Symposium on the road.  Next year's event will be in San Luis Obispo, California at Dairy Creek Golf Course and in 2015, we will have the SOAG at Tam O'Shanter Golf Course in Canton, Ohio.

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