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Richard Choi

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Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« on: October 23, 2013, 12:06:30 PM »
How did I miss this opening??? There are no discussion about this new course anywhere in the treehouse.

Here is a description: http://www.golferswest.com/destinations/a-hole-by-hole-look-at-gamble-sands/

Does anyone else know much about this project? If I knew, I would have tried to make it out there.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 12:12:17 PM »
Quote from: Richard Choi on October 23, 2013, 12:06:30 PM
How did I miss this opening??? There are no discussion about this new course anywhere in the treehouse.

Here is a description: http://www.golferswest.com/destinations/a-hole-by-hole-look-at-gamble-sands/

Does anyone else know much about this project? If I knew, I would have tried to make it out there.

There was a mention of it's opening earlier. Perhaps the what's opening in 2013 thread?
Other than that there have been a few mentions. I tried finding stuff online about it for my trip to KP at Sagebrush, as coming from Wine Valley we had to go close nearby, but there was little mention online. Nothing about Kidd's work. Some about the Dye work.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 12:15:36 PM »
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 01:41:30 PM »
Richard,
Not open yet, it was a preview round for writers. Let me know when you plan to go up there.
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Eric Smith

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 01:49:15 PM »
There are a few really nice pics on the DMK website.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013, 01:51:44 PM by Eric Smith »
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Josh Bills

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 01:53:56 PM »
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Tim Pitner

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 03:26:25 PM »
Quote from: Eric Smith on October 23, 2013, 01:49:15 PM
There are a few really nice pics on the DMK website.

Speaking of the website, the course under construction in Portugal, Comporta Dunes, looks very intriguing.  Anyone know the area or any details?
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Jim Franklin

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 03:45:09 PM »
Course looks pretty cool. For those easterners, what is it near?
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 03:55:41 PM »
about an hour north of Wenatchee,  nearly 3 hours west of Spokane. Less than 4 hours from Seattle
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013, 03:59:02 PM by Pete_Pittock »
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 05:30:28 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on October 23, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
about an hour north of Wenatchee,  nearly 3 hours west of Spokane. Less than 4 hours from Seattle

How far from Portland?
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Daryl David

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 06:44:02 PM »
Quote from: Bill_McBride on October 23, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on October 23, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
about an hour north of Wenatchee,  nearly 3 hours west of Spokane. Less than 4 hours from Seattle

How far from Portland?


6.5 hours if you don't stop.
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Chris DeToro

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 07:05:32 PM »
Wow, this place looks phenomenal.  I have plans for a Seattle trip next year so I might have to extend it to check this place out
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Jordan Caron

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 07:44:52 PM »
Thanks for pointing this course out Richard. Looks very good from what I can see and similar to Sagebrush minus the undulation.
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Wayne Wiggins, Jr.

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 07:54:47 PM »
Quote from: Jim Franklin on October 23, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Course looks pretty cool. For those easterners, what is it near?

nothing.  this would be the definition of "middle of nowhere".  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful country and i enjoy my travels in this part of world. but, holy smokes...
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Daryl David

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 10:48:25 PM »
Quote from: Wayne Wiggins, Jr. on October 24, 2013, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: Jim Franklin on October 23, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Course looks pretty cool. For those easterners, what is it near?

nothing.  this would be the definition of "middle of nowhere".  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful country and i enjoy my travels in this part of world. but, holy smokes...

Not sure of the owners thinking, but assume their intent is to draw from the vacationers and second home folks in Chelan area.  Lots of Seattle folks have places on Lake Chelan and good golf has always been a missing ingredient to the mix. That said, it will be a thin market. The history of Desert Canyon proves how thin.  It better be a really good to draw beyond that area.
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Matthew Essig

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2013, 01:04:39 AM »
Quote from: Wayne Wiggins, Jr. on October 24, 2013, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: Jim Franklin on October 23, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Course looks pretty cool. For those easterners, what is it near?

nothing.  this would be the definition of "middle of nowhere".  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful country and i enjoy my travels in this part of world. but, holy smokes...

Are you kidding me? The Nebraska sand hills or Bandon are the "middle of nowhere" compared to Gamble Sands. The number of Seattleites who travel to Wenatchee or Chelan is off the charts. Plus, it is an easy day trip to make from Seattle; maybe even a 36 hole day trip.
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Sean Leary

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2013, 10:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Matthew Essig on October 25, 2013, 01:04:39 AM
Quote from: Wayne Wiggins, Jr. on October 24, 2013, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: Jim Franklin on October 23, 2013, 03:45:09 PM
Course looks pretty cool. For those easterners, what is it near?

nothing.  this would be the definition of "middle of nowhere".  Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful country and i enjoy my travels in this part of world. but, holy smokes...

Are you kidding me? The Nebraska sand hills or Bandon are the "middle of nowhere" compared to Gamble Sands. The number of Seattleites who travel to Wenatchee or Chelan is off the charts. Plus, it is an easy day trip to make from Seattle; maybe even a 36 hole day trip.

Isn't it pretty far north of Chelan? That's aggressive for a 36 hole day trip.

I don't think Seattle is a great golf town so to speak. The locals don't flock to Chambers Bay and that is close and a great golf course. Wine Valley is similarly far away and it isn't super busy despite being top notch. I look forward to playing it but man it looks like a tough place to make it work.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2013, 10:59:52 PM »
Quote from: Matthew Essig on October 25, 2013, 01:04:39 AM


Are you kidding me? The Nebraska sand hills or Bandon are the "middle of nowhere" compared to Gamble Sands. The number of Seattleites who travel to Wenatchee or Chelan is off the charts. Plus, it is an easy day trip to make from Seattle; maybe even a 36 hole day trip.

Matthew,
It depends where you hang your hat.
Bandon can be a 36 hole day trip from Portland
Sand Hills can be a 36 hold day trip from Lincoln
From Portland Gamble Dunes won't even sniff a single day trip of 18 holes for me.

I think you can now see some of the original clearing work on whatever (bing,google,microsoft) earth on the hilltops south of town.

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Richard Choi

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2013, 03:11:41 PM »
The locations Pete is referring to is Paradise Hill Road, Brewster, WA 98812, just north of downtown Brewster.

I believe the satellite image is showing the first three Dye holes that they built after abandoning that project. DMC course is another 18 holes all together (by the same backers), but I am guessing it is built near that site.

It is only 30 min away from Chelan, which is a very popular vacation destination for local Seattleites so I don't think they will too much trouble getting people to visit. Other golf options at Chelan are not very good at all.

I do a 36 hole day to Wine Valley every year (4 hours each way). I wouldn't even hesitate making a trek out to this course if it is good.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 08:14:44 PM »
Looks like the opening date will be August 1st. Maybe someone who talked with DMK or went to the Gamble Sands booth  at the Seattle Golf Show will chime in.

Their website is a bit improved http://www.gamblesands.com/sites/courses/template.asp?id=1424&page=92034. 

Under course/news the latest new item is the Cascade Golfer story from last December. I will try to link directly.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2014, 10:05:48 PM »
Quote from: Daryl David on October 23, 2013, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Bill_McBride on October 23, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on October 23, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
about an hour north of Wenatchee,  nearly 3 hours west of Spokane. Less than 4 hours from Seattle

How far from Portland?


6.5 hours if you don't stop.

At my age I stop fairly frequently. 
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Morgan Clawson

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2014, 10:28:13 PM »
How many months a year can you golf here?

Does this area get less rain than Seattle?
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Daryl David

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2014, 11:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Morgan Clawson on March 12, 2014, 10:28:13 PM
How many months a year can you golf here?

Does this area get less rain than Seattle?

Yes.  It is pretty much a desert climate in the upper Columbia river basin.
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Matthew Essig

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 11:43:19 PM »
Quote from: Morgan Clawson on March 12, 2014, 10:28:13 PM
How many months a year can you golf here?

Does this area get less rain than Seattle?

Not all year round... But less precipitation!

Brewster: (avg. high, low, and precipitation)

Jan   33°F      20°F   1.51 in.
Feb   41°F      23°F   1.30 in.
Mar   54°F   30°F   1.17 in.
Apr   64°F      36°F   0.73 in.
May   73°F      43°F   1.28 in.
Jun   80°F      49°F   1.00 in.
Jul   89°F      54°F   0.55 in.
Aug   89°F      53°F   0.36 in.
Sep   79°F      45°F   0.53 in.
Oct   63°F   35°F   0.89 in.
Nov   44°F   27°F   1.94 in.
Dec   32°F      19°F   1.98 in.

In comparison to Seattle: (avg. high, low, and precipitation)


Jan   47°F   36°F    5.24 in.
Feb   51°F      37°F   4.23 in.
Mar   55°F   39°F      3.92 in.
Apr   59°F      43°F   2.75 in.
May   65°F      48°F   2.03 in.
Jun   70°F      53°F   1.55 in.
Jul   75°F      56°F   0.93 in.
Aug   75°F      57°F   1.16 in.
Sep   70°F      53°F   1.61 in.
Oct   60°F      46°F   3.24 in.
Nov   52°F      40°F   5.67 in.
Dec   47°F      36°F   6.06 in.
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Connor Dougherty

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Re: Gamble Sands - David McLay Kidd - 2013
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2014, 11:45:39 PM »
Looks like they're planning on putting two courses in. Anyone have an idea of where the other course is located?
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