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Tom Ferrell

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Sh**ty Courses You Love
« on: October 02, 2013, 03:36:35 PM »
Flatirons Golf Course in Boulder, CO.  Robert Bruce Harris.  Square parcel of land, occupied by parallel fairways.  Flat greens and very little character.  And I LOVE that place!  Had a standing game there for years.  Incredible resistance to scoring for such a seemingly innocuous little track.  Has one all-world hole, the par-3 11th.

The "old" Okefenokee Golf Club in Waycross, GA.  Where I grew up.  NLE since 1977, when the club moved to property out on the Satilla River and had JOE LEE build one of the greatest hidden gems in the world.  But old Okie was something else!  Kind of like Flatirons but without the one all-world hole.  What it did have, however, was two great examples of my favorite unused design feature - shared tee boxes! - and a membership that basically set my childhood into a Dan Jenkins novel.  It was the greatest place in the world.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 03:43:35 PM by Tom Ferrell »

Jeff Spittel

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 03:47:10 PM »
Galloping Hill muni in my home town of Union, NJ. Before my family joined Suburban GC, I learned to play there. The county has invested considerable money in it in recent years. In the 70s and 80s it was in such awful condition that several of the tee boxes were actually plastic mats. The old "clubhouse" looked and smelled like a pile of turds and cigarette butts.
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Mike Schott

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 03:48:22 PM »
Hilltop Golf Course in Plymouth, MI. Not really shitty but originally 9 holes and later 9 more squeezed in with the usual problems including far too many trees to keep golfers from getting beaned. The property is rolling and the greens have tons of back to front pitch and at one time were super fast for a muni. Played it every Saturday AM in season from about 1987 to 2000.

I should add that I love it due to the wild greens, 100's of rounds with good friends and the memories of 2 of these friends who have since passed.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 03:58:50 PM by Mike Schott »

Ivan Lipko

Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 03:57:35 PM »
Not really sure if it is shitty, but I love Falcon's Fire in Kissimmee, FL. It's wide, soft, green and just fun to play day in and day out.

Kyle Casella

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 03:58:30 PM »
Two nine holers come to mind immediately: Mill Valley Golf Course in Marin County and Lake Almanor CC in Plumas County. Both leave a lot to be desired when it comes to design and especially maintenance, but I always have a blast playing both! I also love Lincoln Park in SF, mostly for the view from 17.

Alex Miller

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 04:16:25 PM »
Morro Bay!

Nigel Islam

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 04:18:07 PM »
Not really sure if it is shitty, but I love Falcon's Fire in Kissimmee, FL. It's wide, soft, green and just fun to play day in and day out.

I've played Falcon's Fire, and I've played a lot worse than that.

For me it would be New Salisbury golf course in Indiana. The first course you play always has a special place in your soul!
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 04:20:38 PM by Nigel Islam »

Joe Bausch

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 04:21:17 PM »
St. Da...   ahhh, never mind.   ;D
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Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Phil McDade

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 04:39:15 PM »
Tom:

A similar thread from a few years back; ironically, we both came up with the same architect for our courses!

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,47339.0.html

Garland Bayley

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 04:41:11 PM »
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Matthew Petersen

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 04:47:52 PM »
Flatirons Golf Course in Boulder, CO.  Robert Bruce Harris.  Square parcel of land, occupied by parallel fairways.  Flat greens and very little character.  And I LOVE that place!  Had a standing game there for years.  Incredible resistance to scoring for such a seemingly innocuous little track.  Has one all-world hole, the par-3 11th.

The "old" Okefenokee Golf Club in Waycross, GA.  Where I grew up.  NLE since 1977, when the club moved to property out on the Satilla River and had JOE LEE build one of the greatest hidden gems in the world.  But old Okie was something else!  Kind of like Flatirons but without the one all-world hole.  What it did have, however, was two great examples of my favorite unused design feature - shared tee boxes! - and a membership that basically set my childhood into a Dan Jenkins novel.  It was the greatest place in the world.

Is 11 the par 3 over the creek bordering Arapahoe? I had to look up a map to even remember the hole.

Played there quite a few times in high school, but it's a pretty unmemorable course to me.

Jim Sherma

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 05:00:34 PM »
Galloping Hill muni in my home town of Union, NJ. Before my family joined Suburban GC, I learned to play there. The county has invested considerable money in it in recent years. In the 70s and 80s it was in such awful condition that several of the tee boxes were actually plastic mats. The old "clubhouse" looked and smelled like a pile of turds and cigarette butts.

The mats at Galloping Hill has a much longer history than that. My dad grew up there back in the '40's and '50's and tells stories of the mats and the fact that alot of the good players would tee up off of the dirt on the sides of them. Galloping Hill really sounded like a great place back then. One of the years in the 1950's that he qualified for the NJAm match play I believe that three of the 16 qualifiers were from Galloping Hill. He still has all of the newspaper clipping in his scrapbook and I can confirm that.

Jud_T

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 05:49:26 PM »
Pascack Brook CC in River Vale, NJ designed by the legendary John Handwerg, Jr..  This is where I honed my exquisite skills when I took up the game while living and working in NYC.  Played with the club champ, who worked for the airlines.  I've never seen anyone since who could get up and down from a garbage can like this guy, and in the case of Pascack I mean literally...  Now that I've become a complete GCA snob I refuse to return so as not to spoil the good memories...

Honorable mention-  the driving range in Diversey Harbor in Chicago where my grandmother used to take me to hit balls off mats as a kid...
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 05:55:09 PM by Jud T »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

David Kelly

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 05:54:54 PM »
Buffalo Creek in Palmetto, FL.  It is a Ron Garl "links-like" muni near Bradenton that I used to play alot in the early 90s.  It didn't get a lot of TLC which was great because it inadvertently played pretty firm and fast - especially for that area.  Also about half the holes were pretty interesting.    I have no idea what it is like now.
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." - Judge Holden, Blood Meridian.

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 06:09:07 PM »
St. Da...   ahhh, never mind.   ;D
What??    Really Joe, please explain. Ed
We have a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for you.

Joe Bausch

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2013, 06:24:55 PM »
St. Da...   ahhh, never mind.   ;D
What??    Really Joe, please explain. Ed

Let's play somewhere Ed before your surgery and I'll explain.   :)
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Rees Milikin

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 06:27:10 PM »
Belle Meade Country Club - The one in Thomson, GA
Hard Labor Creek State Park Golf Course - Rutledge, GA
Shelby Park Muni - Nashville, TN
Winter Park Country Club 9 Hole - Winter Park, FL

Ed Brzezowski

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2013, 06:28:02 PM »
St. Da...   ahhh, never mind.   ;D
What??    Really Joe, please explain. Ed

Let's play somewhere Ed before your surgery and I'll explain.   :)

Return to concord and see the renovations?
We have a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for you.

Joe Bausch

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2013, 06:36:06 PM »
St. Da...   ahhh, never mind.   ;D
What??    Really Joe, please explain. Ed

Let's play somewhere Ed before your surgery and I'll explain.   :)

Return to concord and see the renovations?

Yes!
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Alex Miller

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2013, 06:40:48 PM »
Belle Meade Country Club - The one in Thomson, GA
Hard Labor Creek State Park Golf Course - Rutledge, GA
Shelby Park Muni - Nashville, TN
Winter Park Country Club 9 Hole - Winter Park, FL


Harpeth Hills, Nashville, TN

Dave McCollum

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2013, 07:42:18 PM »
I’d regret not nominating the course where I learned to play, still play, and will die playing, Canyon Springs in Twin Falls, Idaho.  Sh**ty but fun works for me.  Here affordable golf rules the roost.  Everything suffers as a result.  Everyday I’m reminded that most golfers play where their buddies play and that the relative merits of the golf course fall somewhere south of this in terms of importance.
 
I acknowledge the theoretical possibility of having the ultimate golf experience--playing the best course with your best buds—but I also suspect that this ultimate might be best defined as unattainable so long as we continue to play.  I see it as more of a reflection one makes at the end of the journey…the best day of golf I ever had was…  I also acknowledge that I make little effort to put this notion to the litmus test.

More than once it has occurred to me that I should try harder to play the best courses with the best people, to make the most of every round, to play as well as I am able, and so on.  Hell, I’ve even considered playing in every gca.com event I can as a reasonable place to begin such a quest.  Then I just say “naw, it’s only golf” and move on with my life.

Rees Milikin

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2013, 08:00:21 PM »
Belle Meade Country Club - The one in Thomson, GA
Hard Labor Creek State Park Golf Course - Rutledge, GA
Shelby Park Muni - Nashville, TN
Winter Park Country Club 9 Hole - Winter Park, FL


Harpeth Hills, Nashville, TN

Forgot about that one, as well as the rest of the Nashville Muni's, Percy Warner and McCabe...They aren't special, but they are fun.  I wish I could move back to Nashville (minus the mediocre golf).

jeffwarne

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2013, 08:06:57 PM »
Island's End
The Patch, Augusta-where I learned to play links golf ;)
Goat Hill (which others consider shitty, but I have in my top 25)
absolutely prime right now-dust clouds when ball lands

Rees,
used to love playing Belle Meade.
Do they still have the 75 yard par 3? #11 I think?
played with a guy in a HS match who drove the 12th? (247 uphill yards to a wicked green) lipped out his uphill 3 footer for eagle, it horseshoed around, rolled past him, off the upper level, off the lower level, and 50 yards back down the fairway
We played our region tournament at Hard Labor Creek one year.(which seemed appropriate given the nature of our team ;))
« Last Edit: October 03, 2013, 07:39:24 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Pete Balzer

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2013, 08:28:33 PM »
I'm a Flatirons fan as well, but a course I played with my parents growing up is my fav sh**ty course, although it was designed by Alex Nipper Campbell- Miamsburgh Mound. Not sure if it's the course or the good times remember with family.

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: Sh**ty Courses You Love
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2013, 10:06:38 PM »
Jackson Park on Chicago's south side.  I once hit a ball way right along the fence line which borders a city street.  When I walked up to look for it a little kid said "Hey mister, you want your ball back?"  I said "Yeah."  "Five dollars."  "Keep it," I said.

Burning Oak near Houghton Lake, MI.  I like it because it has sandy soil, and has irrigated fairways but unirrigated rough.  You can hit the hottest running flyers out of that straw colored wispy stuff that you can imagine.  I once hit about a 280 yard 3 iron out of it to 15 feet on a par 5, of which carried about 180.
Don't play too much golf. Two rounds a day are plenty.

--Harry Vardon

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