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Matthew Mollica

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2013, 01:08:26 AM »
The first few I thought of were -

Pebble Beach 7
LACC (North) 4 and 11
ANGC 6
SFGC 7
Pasa 8
Olympic (Lake) 3
Cal Club 8

Famous? Has to be either Pebble or Augusta.

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Matthew Rose

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2013, 01:10:20 AM »
There was a fetish for this type of hole in northern Michigan for many years, after RTJ built the 6th hole at Treetops, which plays almost 100 feet downhill as you look over the tops of trees in the forest beyond.  Rick Smith's par-3 course at Treetops has a couple of holes which are even more severe than Jones' version.

I've played all of those.... the Fazio course there had one as well. I remember all of them pretty clearly.

You could say it certainly seems to be the "thing" at Treetops.... I guess since it's pretty much the reason for the name "Treetops", they had to run the concept into the ground. It does make the par-three course great fun, though.

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Jon Wiggett

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2013, 02:10:14 AM »
Kingussie in the Scottish Highlands has a neat one with a good drop across the river. Number 15 if memory serves me correctly which is somewhere around 90 to 100 yards.

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Matthew Mollica

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2013, 02:54:43 AM »
Famous Australians-

Barnbougle Dunes 5
The National (Old) 4 & 7
New South Wales 11

There's a tiny one on the 9 hole 'Cups' course at The Dunes - the altitude difference between tee and green is comparable to the length of the hole.

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Joe Bausch

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2013, 03:18:39 AM »
I hope some day the original 12th hole at Cobb's Creek will be back in play.  Here is a picture of it from the year it opened in 1916:

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Tim Leahy

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2013, 03:47:03 AM »
The 9th at Lake Chabot in Oakland, CA is a great drop shot. At least a 100 ft drop at 125 yds. By my definition a drop shot has to fall at least 50 ft to qualify. Another great little known one is the 13th at La Contenta in the foothills east of Sacramento, CA. 75FT drop at 165 yds over a pond and sandtrap to a peanut shaped green.
The 6th at Torrey Pines North may be prettiest of them all.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2013, 05:22:23 AM »
Here are a few with varying degrees of famousness -

18th at Dartmouth, Devon
12th at Okehampton, Devon,
15th at Kington, Herefordshire
16th at Carne, Mayo
Isn't there a famous one at Cullen, in NE Scotland? The 7th maybe? (Not really sure as haven't been there. Excellent soup fish though, "Cullen Skink").

A couple of good 'uns, although maybe not quite sufficiently droppy -

8th at Royal Aberdeen
8th at Royal Troon
17th at Enniscrone

A couple of drop-shot par-4's that are driveable -

10th at Riviera?
10th at Cruden Bay - surprisingly yes, I've seen it driven from the top-tee with my own eyes, and using a wooden headed, steel shafted driver too!
18th at Kington
18th at Llandridnod Wells

And to add variety a drop-shot par-4 where the second shot is a mega-drop -

8th at Royal Dornoch

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Chuck Glowacki

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2013, 06:36:56 AM »
don't know if it's "famous" but the 17th at East Hampton Golf Club is pretty good

Bill Gayne

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2013, 06:55:35 AM »
16 at Golden Horseshoe. Drop shot par threes on links courses are more difficult.

Rich Goodale

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2013, 07:10:56 AM »
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Jon Stein

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2013, 07:12:15 AM »
I would agree #7 at Pebble is the most famous.

A few of my favorite drop shot par 3s in my region include:

1.  #4 at Fox Hopyard - East Haddam, CT
2.  #11 at Leatherstocking - Cooperstown, NY
3.  #8 at Bethpage Black - Farmingdale, NY
4.  #3 at Hartford Golf Club - West Hartford, CT
5.  #13 at Yale - Redan hole - New Haven, CT

Rich Goodale

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2013, 08:16:49 AM »
Jon

How could a "Redan" (13, Yale) be a drop-shot hole when the original Redan at North Berwick was and is an uphill hole, and relies on its uphillness to be compared to the "Great Redan" of the Crimean War, after which it was named?

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Sean_A

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2013, 08:27:34 AM »
Jon

How could a "Redan" (13, Yale) be a drop-shot hole when the original Redan at North Berwick was and is an uphill hole, and relies on its uphillness to be compared to the "Great Redan" of the Crimean War, after which it was named?

Rich

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I wonder how much drop is a drop-shot?  I would never have thought The Postage Stamp was a drop-shot hole. 

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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2013, 08:29:54 AM »
Jon

How could a "Redan" (13, Yale) be a drop-shot hole when the original Redan at North Berwick was and is an uphill hole, and relies on its uphillness to be compared to the "Great Redan" of the Crimean War, after which it was named?

Rich

Same way as a "Biarritz" might be nothing like the original... The Redan at Yale would play better if on the level but it is a cracking hole as is...

I'm not often a fan of severe drop-shot par-3's because although they provide a bit of excitement, I think they are sometimes routed in to a course as an easy way to get downhill and they can blow all the good work in a routing in craftily getting up that hill in the first place... In other words, you can end up with courses of 12 or 13 uphill holes and only 5 or 6 downhill ones...

An example is the 7th hole at Pt Ruddy's Glashedy course in Ballyliffen. In general, I think this course is routed very well, taking you up to high points and back down again once on each nine. However, the 7th blows it all in one go... He does it much better on the back nine with 14 (a less severe drop shot) followed by 15...

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2013, 08:46:27 AM »
16 at Golden Horseshoe. Drop shot par threes on links courses are more difficult.

There are 3 or 4 drop-shot par threes on that course alone!
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2013, 08:47:51 AM »
We need a USGA-certified device that allows us to measure slope of drop (or SOD) to decree without argument a proper drop shot hole...say, priced around $110 or so US.
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Tim Martin

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2013, 09:19:16 AM »
Cleopatra at Jasper
9th at Chambers Bay
9th at Merion, 13th
maybe 10 at Pacific Dunes, they other ones at Bandon area Bandon Trails 17 and Old Mac 8
Sagebrush as 4 and 10, 4 with the better backdrop of Nicola Lake
12 at The Oregon Club
The steepest one I have played is the 12th at Mountain View in Boring, OR (an official sister city of Dull, Scotland) TRUISM

Do you really think 13 at Merion fits the description?

Jon Stein

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2013, 09:25:20 AM »
I was certainly a bit loose calling holes like #13 Yale drop shot. But the tremendous change in elevation adds significant value to this hole. Calling it drop shot, would not be a proper classification. Same applies to 8 at bethpage.

Tim_Weiman

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2013, 09:32:50 AM »
Surprised nobody mentioned Spyglass, #3.
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Anthony Butler

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2013, 10:11:39 AM »
Not sure if the 12th at The Country Club has enough elevation change to qualify as a drop shot, but the ball sure hangs in the air for a long time. Great hole with a green the size of a pool table.

Walked by this hole during the US Amateur, it looked to me like the green surface has been pushed out all the way to the edge of the green pad... Is that something that happened during the recent Gil Hanse work?

There are, of course a million drop shot par 3s throughout New England. The recently re-opened Shaker Hills has  3 out of 4 drop shot par 3s. Every other course I can think of has at least one.
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Will Lozier

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2013, 10:23:36 AM »
Ross' 9th at Springfield (OH) CC is an absolute gem!

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John Kirk

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2013, 11:00:22 AM »
The 7th hole at Stone Eagle is 218 yards from the back tees, and about 150 feet downhill.  It is the 11th most famous drop shot in all of golf.  The tee box also offers a very nice view of the Coachella Valley.

Here's a picture courtesy of Frank Sullivan's 2011 post.  The angle of play is 50-100 yards to the right of this angle.  



Sean Leary

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2013, 11:13:24 AM »
Cleopatra at Jasper
9th at Chambers Bay
9th at Merion, 13th
maybe 10 at Pacific Dunes, they other ones at Bandon area Bandon Trails 17 and Old Mac 8
Sagebrush as 4 and 10, 4 with the better backdrop of Nicola Lake
12 at The Oregon Club
The steepest one I have played is the 12th at Mountain View in Boring, OR (an official sister city of Dull, Scotland) TRUISM

Do you really think 13 at Merion fits the description?

My thought too. 17 would fit better although I guess I always thought of a drop shot par 3 being more on the shortish side for whatever reason.

Howard Riefs

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2013, 11:18:05 AM »
Shoreacres, #12

The hole works great as The Short and as a connector between the splendid #11 and #13.
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Jordan Standefer

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Re: Most Famous Drop-Shot Par-3s
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2013, 11:37:46 AM »
#2 at Bandon Trails
#16 at La Quinta Mountain is one of my favorites in the desert.

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