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Patrick_Mucci

 Not long ago I was playing golf with three fellows, all good ball strikers.

As the round progressed, all were playing better than their handicaps and we were ll really enjoying the course, the good weather, the company and our play.

Then, on one hole, one of the players hit a good solid tee shot, a nice high drive down the right side of the fairway.
It drifted slightly right and landed in the fairway and took a bounce further right and then another, into a big flanking bunker.

The golfer was really annoyed at the bad break as he could not reach the green from the bunker.
As we approached the bunker and he saw his ball and his predicament, he became even more distressed at his seemingly unlucky break.

But, as I looked at the surrounding terrain, I could see that it was no fluke, no bad break, but an intended consequence.

The architect's placement of the bunker in the DZ  was obvious, what wasn't obvious was the subtle slope of the fairway and interceding rough, all leaning toward the bunker.

The architect, not fate had determined the outcome of his drive.

From the bunker he tried hitting a rescue club, clearly ignoring the old Chinese proverb, "Wood in bunker mean wood in head".
It hit into the top grassed face of the bunker and bounced high in the air coming to rest in the rough in front of the bunker.
From there, he hit it left of the green, wedged onto the green and two putted for a double bogey.
On the next tee he was still really annoyed by what he perceived was an unlucky break which led to a double, so much so that he pulled his drive into a left side fairway bunker and bogeyed that hole.   From there, his play continued in a down ward spiral.

After the round he mentioned how well he was playing until he got an unlucky break.

I told him that luck had nothing to do with it.
He looked at me like I was crazy.
Not a moron mind you, but crazy not to recognize his misfortune.

So, I told him to grab his drink and come with me.
We got into a cart and drove out to the bunker.
I started at about 30 yards in front of the bunker and asked him to look back at the bunker, adjacent rough and fairway
I asked him to look at the relationship of those features and tell me if they sloped toward or away from the bunker.

He said that he never noticed that the incline was toward the bunker.
Then I asked, so, do you think you got a bad break or the intended result of a drive flirting with the bunker ?
As we discussed his play, he admitted that had he known that the fairway sloped toward the bunker and that his ball hadn't been the victim of a bad break that he wouldn't have gotten so upset.

Now the hole is a slight dogleg right and the fairway quite generous.

The "feature" was probably intended to catch the unwary trying to take the shortest route.

His failure to see the gentle slope and his failure to understand it's influence and retain same in his memory banks led to the demise of his round.

The architect had claimed another unwary victim with the subtlest of tactics.

How often have you seen a round ruined by a golfer's failure to see the peril inherent in the architecture ?

My other favorite architect's tactic that almost universally fools the golfer is a high right to low left sloped fairway with an approach to a green that's sloped from high left to low right.  
When the flag is cut far left, golfers invariably miss the green left and when the flag is cut far right the golfers invariably hit their approach far left leaving them a treacherous downhill putt.

Few have the powers of observation to notice the architect's defensive tactics.

How else do architects deceive or lull the golfer into making tactical mistakes ?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 01:11:37 AM by Patrick_Mucci »

Sean_A

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 06:05:21 AM »
Jeepers, if the guy thinks a natural bounce down a slope into a bunker is a bad break what does he think of centreline hazards?  To be fair, I hear "unlucky" a lot when luck has nothing to do with the result.

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Rich Goodale

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 06:29:36 AM »
Good post, Pat

Anybody (regardless of their skill level) who hits a bad shot and then drops another shot because they blame anything other than themselves (architecture, maintenance, the sound of butterflies mating in the distance....) deserves to be condemned to lawn bowling for the rest of their active lives......

Rich
« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 06:34:39 AM by Rich Goodale »
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jeffwarne

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 07:29:42 AM »
Sounds like easy money
should've held his hand and quietly nodded ::) ::) ;)
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Lou_Duran

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 09:19:24 AM »
Bobby Jones II wrote a book on the architect's tricks of the trade and how to use them to play better golf.

One of the tricks that still gets me, sometimes even after I've played the hole a few times, is the swale in front of a green that is largely indistinguishable or hidden from the fairway.  

One that I dislike somewhat is the familiar design feature that purports to be one thing, but is quite another.  I am thinking of the Redan that invites a RtL shot off the high ground on the right to feed the ball all the way across the green to the left, but instead the ball either sticks (probably more conditioning/maintenance than design) or bounds straight forward or to the right.  #4 at Riviera comes to mind, but even the original, NB's 15, seems to play the same way (ditto for Pacific Dunes #17).    

Brent Hutto

Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 10:11:23 AM »
Was the guy in the original example familiar with the course?

Patrick_Mucci

Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 01:12:00 PM »
Jeepers, if the guy thinks a natural bounce down a slope into a bunker is a bad break what does he think of centreline hazards?  To be fair, I hear "unlucky" a lot when luck has nothing to do with the result.

Sean,

The slope was very subtle because almost the entire fairway canted toward the bunker, hence his reaction was "normal" at first glance.


Ciao

Patrick_Mucci

Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 01:13:58 PM »

Was the guy in the original example familiar with the course?

Yes,

But, if he played the hole a dozen times and his ball was hit to the center or left side of the fairway, he'd never encounter that subtle feature.

And, how many of us have instant and total recall of every blade of grass, every feature on a golf course ?


Jason Topp

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 02:18:04 PM »
I enjoy the effect of greens that slope with surrounding terrain.  It is such a simple, natural effect, but at least half of the people do not recognize it. 

Mid Pines features a number of such greens and we won a match last week primarily because I read the greens for my partner. 

Sean_A

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Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 06:49:00 PM »
Lou

I too really like dead ground shy of greens.  Its especially effective when the green runs away from the fairway.

I also like a raised lip for the front of the green.  It only needs to be a foot or so.  

I also really like seamless transitions from fairway to green for long approaches - its effectively another way to create dead ground.  For big greens which are flatish its really hard to get a grip.

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Patrick_Mucci

Re: The architect ruined your game and you didn't even know it was his doing
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 06:57:41 PM »

I enjoy the effect of greens that slope with surrounding terrain.  It is such a simple, natural effect, but at least half of the people do not recognize it. 

Jason,

Then, you'd really love Baltusrol Upper


Mid Pines features a number of such greens and we won a match last week primarily because I read the greens for my partner.