Ok, am back.
Some points...
...again, loved the concept. On a flight into LaG a few years ago,(before construction began) saw the site and immediately thought of a course. Got home and played with routings. We had 18 holes (seven on the water) with baseball fields, soccer fields, tennis courts, hoops, even bocci ball courts. Had nature walks and, coolest of all, TWO walkways on piers into the East River! Then found out about the project. Disapponted to not have the chance to pitch, but was happy for the City to have such a great/unique course.
However, the price is, not was, IS ridiculous. The meter is running and it's gonna keep running with maint costs v. revenue. Dont know DT's contract with NYC, but would love to hear details. Difficult to imagine him making any $ with CH construction costs + maint cost against revenue. Nice that he doesn't have to carry the project's vig. Details from someone, please.
Would be great to see some public access on the site. Maybe not everything listed above, but at least something for the kids.
Regarding LaG. Yes, the planes are tweaked for US Open tennis. In fact, have been there for various Finals. But, those tweaks are only for Finals. Cant imagine the FAA re-routing planes for 4 full days. Do you wanna take off/land on a less safe glide path cause someone's got a 6 foot slider for par?
My prediction was for a PGA Tour stop. The USGA has shown that they'll consider any warm 18 holes for an Open site.
Waiting on the DT info and then will offer up some wagers.
Tigers clinching today? Cabby IS the MVP
John,
It's fairly clear now that either you have some inate bias, or a behavioral pre-disposition for speculative folly.
As JWL so aptly addresses, the LGA flight vectors (fluctuating daily due to winds and temps) do not overly impact Ferry Point. This issue, while completely addressable should it ever become merited, isn't one at all. Safety is NEVER willfully compromised in these situations around such a large MSA with such a tight airspace.
Your desire to see public access and assessment of the attribution of costs reveals how little you know (publicly available through NYC Parks Dept) about the project. Your mention/question of maintenance costs v. revenue also displays a fundamental lack of knowledge of the contractual nature of the ownership and follow-on management of the course. Why, I ask, do you persist in trying to spread disbeliefs and misunderstandings?
Sure, the (sunken)costs over time have been absurd and most all the parties preceding DT to blame, yet you continue to believe the present and future costs will parallel such stupidity. There is absolutely zero evidence that will continue. Say whatever you want about the man's penchant for self-promotion, but Trump has more than proven his ability to effectively and efficiently complete the construction of a facility and run golf operations.
NYC Parks Department maintains the co-rights to designate access to kids, or any other worthy slice of the golfing population. They also cap the pricing at #'s not entirely unreasonable by anyone's comparative basis. Trump hasn't been shy about offering any of his facilities for local or regional competing use, and in fact, encourages his pros to host pro-bono golf days for worthy causes. Again, your previous statement has no basis, nor evidence of validity.
As for any future PGA tour stop....my own belief is who the f... cares??? They are but one factor in a larger game and a group whose values are consumed by $$$ and media attention. That said, it is exactly their thirst for the almighty buck that will draw them, like a moth to a flame, to consider Ferry Point in thier future plans.
Finally, before you continue to spread anymore of your speculation and untruths, perhaps you ought to dig into some of the publicly available material about the ownership and subsequent management of this project? You might also consider researching the FAA rules on limited airspace. Thats work you'll have to do if you have the chops. Until then, I'd also suggest limiting your comments on other threads to defending your home course, as that might require an unbelievable amount of energy to "warm up those 18 holes" at such an overrated course for any major consideration.
Cheers