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William_G

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2013, 06:11:26 PM »
love the descriptors of the course and greens..."these players are really going have to pay attention, front to back slope going with the natural contours of the land"..what a concept!

great to see a C&C course on TV...definitely more fun to watch than Oak Hill, last week

great to see firm and fast conditions, sweet!   8)
It's all about the golf!

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2013, 07:12:28 PM »
The stupid rules ruining a wonderful day.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2013, 07:37:58 PM »
+1

30 minutes to do a drop under rule 26.   Inexcusable. 

Phil McDade

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2013, 08:28:18 PM »
+1

30 minutes to do a drop under rule 26.   Inexcusable. 

A result of architecture and local rules? There's a lot of stuff going on with that hole...

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2013, 08:40:46 PM »
The USA should make a claim.

Phil McDade

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2013, 08:42:58 PM »
Dan:

TV commentators suggest on-site referee decisions are final. This isn't like the Masters and stroke play, where scores can be adjusted afterwards (however banal that episode was...)

Bill_McBride

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2013, 09:04:25 PM »
Tom, the par 5 16th - does anyone ever play to the smaller right fairway on purpose?   Looks like a tighter tee shot with no appreciable short cut and a worse angle with regard to that green side bunker.  This is just from TV but what are your thoughts?

Beautiful C&c course.  

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2013, 09:09:10 PM »
Tom, the par 5 16th - does anyone ever play to the smaller right fairway on purpose?   Looks like a tighter tee shot with no appreciable short cut and a worse angle with regard to that green side bunker.  This is just from TV but what are your thoughts?

Beautiful C&c course.  

To my surprise my opponents chose the right side very successfully both days we played. I think it gives a short hitter a chance to reach the green. I thought it was a sucker play, I was proven wrong.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 11:24:01 PM »
Tom, the par 5 16th - does anyone ever play to the smaller right fairway on purpose?   Looks like a tighter tee shot with no appreciable short cut and a worse angle with regard to that green side bunker.  This is just from TV but what are your thoughts?

Beautiful C&c course.  

To my surprise my opponents chose the right side very successfully both days we played. I think it gives a short hitter a chance to reach the green. I thought it was a sucker play, I was proven wrong.

I'd love to see the aerial or yardage guide page for this hole.   Anybody?

Matthew Petersen

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 11:34:02 PM »
+1

30 minutes to do a drop under rule 26.   Inexcusable. 

A result of architecture and local rules? There's a lot of stuff going on with that hole...

I don't think it was either of those. There's a stream crossing a fairway--that's not unusual anywhere. Everything was handled poorly by the official, however, and to spend that much time and still get it wrong is a colossal mistake.

David Schofield

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2013, 08:21:30 AM »
Did Pettersen/Recari have an albatross on #2?
That's what LPGA scoring has down for them.


Totally O/T but this reminds me of my favorite "golf-with-your-boss" story:  A co-worker and I were invited to play golf with our Manager and President.  On a par 5, my co-worker duffed his tee shot, hit a decent second shot and holed his third shot from 150 yards out.  Apparently forgetting the duffed tee shot, our Manager started screaming "ALCATRAZ! ALCATRAZ!".  We weren't sure if or how to correct him on either the actual score or the actual terminology.  We eventually corrected the score but left the terminology.  Someday, our Manager will get his own elusive "ALCATRAZ!".

Pete Buczkowski

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2013, 09:22:09 AM »
Only caught a few minutes of the coverage yesterday, but man the course looks to be conditioned beautifully. Watching the shots roll out on the par 3 6th? and maneuvering around 8 green was a delight.  Congrats to all involved.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2013, 09:57:00 AM »
Back to the course.  It looks to be a course you could play every day and never get bored - a very high compliment in my book.  

Jud_T

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2013, 10:11:45 AM »
This is so much more exciting than 95% of all stroke play events.  This is what golf is missing.  Team competition, match play and geographical rooting interest.  Turn it into world football (soccer) leagues and you've really got something.  Oh, and the course looks terrific...
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

William_G

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2013, 10:51:41 AM »
I've just been reading on twitter the reaction of some of the players and the media to this ruling. Not exactly lady like! Whatever happened to sportsmanship and keeping your dignity in check in the face of adversity. The official made a mistake (yes, a big cock up), there's nothing that can be done to change it so why not move on and deal with the bad break gracefully? It's a team event which only really has bragging rights on the line - it's not life and death - a bit of perspective is needed. The fact that it took a half an hour in the first place is symptomatic...
funny thing is, that if were life and death, they may be more graceful

FWIW, I would be just as upset...every hole is a BIG DEAL in match play, and Ciganda made a par to halve the hole

the officials were terrible in this instance and took 30 minutes to botch it in addition to that, talk about root canal on a healthy tooth, pure toture

love the look of the course and how it is playing

congrats to C&C   8) 8)
It's all about the golf!

Tom Forsythe

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2013, 11:02:20 AM »
Granted the official botched the ruling, but a relatively simple up and down for birdie by Thompson or Lewis making her birdie putt would have made the entire rule debacle moot.  The Americans - particularly Thompson - had a horrible day putting in that match.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2013, 01:41:02 PM »
Really enjoying watching the Ladies play this course. No disrespect to other courses intended, but it's nice to see play on a course that doesn't have avenues of trees alongside every hole and where golf through the air doesn't dominate.

I was particularly impressed by a shot played by one of the US players on the first day, sorry but I can't remember which player, but it was a short pitch-n-run played wide into a left sided bank that filtered gently down onto the green and finished near to a really tight front-right pin. A very classy shot. Very imaginative and very well executed as well. IMO a Seve like shot, and I can't praise a greenside shot more than that. A pleasure to watch it.

All the best.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 01:43:06 PM by Thomas Dai »

Andy Troeger

Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2013, 06:22:42 PM »
There are some really cool features at Colorado GC that show up because of the firmness of the course. #1/2 get the course off to a great start with a long hole followed by a short one. #8 is a cool short four. The course also finishes well. The slope on #10 seems less severe than I remember, or maybe the front right pin is just much more reasonable than front-left. The 11th green might be the worst that I've seen from C&C, especially when the pin is up top in that bowl. The target is just too small. The course has more length than many C&C courses and I expect that makes it a better tournament course than some of their other venues.

Peter Le

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2013, 06:45:50 PM »
Tom, the par 5 16th - does anyone ever play to the smaller right fairway on purpose?   Looks like a tighter tee shot with no appreciable short cut and a worse angle with regard to that green side bunker.  This is just from TV but what are your thoughts?

Beautiful C&c course.  

To my surprise my opponents chose the right side very successfully both days we played. I think it gives a short hitter a chance to reach the green. I thought it was a sucker play, I was proven wrong.

I'd love to see the aerial or yardage guide page for this hole.   Anybody?

Bill - i think this might help: http://course.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/course/course/coloradogc/aerial.htm.

I flew into Denver today and was lucky enough to have in-flight dish network on southwest...for free. Watching morning foursomes made the 4 hour flight a piece of cake. CGC looks like a wonderful course -- hope to get out there tomorrow. Hope to play it one day!
PL

Scott Szabo

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 06:48:31 PM »
Fantastic looking course.
"So your man hit it into a fairway bunker, hit the wrong side of the green, and couldn't hit a hybrid off a sidehill lie to take advantage of his length? We apologize for testing him so thoroughly." - Tom Doak, 6/29/10

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2013, 06:49:25 PM »
There are some really cool features at Colorado GC that show up because of the firmness of the course. #1/2 get the course off to a great start with a long hole followed by a short one. #8 is a cool short four. The course also finishes well. The slope on #10 seems less severe than I remember, or maybe the front right pin is just much more reasonable than front-left. The 11th green might be the worst that I've seen from C&C, especially when the pin is up top in that bowl. The target is just too small. The course has more length than many C&C courses and I expect that makes it a better tournament course than some of their other venues.

I do believe the girls have proved you wrong about the back pin on 11. I prayed for the pin to be back there over the course of my stay.

CGC is a very difficult course. It is a thrill seeing this excellent play.  The greens are fair under regular conditions.

Andy Troeger

Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2013, 06:54:21 PM »
Even the girls have to hit almost a perfect shot to get the ball to stay. Angela Stanford hit what seemed like the perfect shot and ended up dead--there couldn't have been much difference between where the balls in that group landed and some went toward the hole and the others didn't. And most people that play there aren't professionals.  At least it is possible to hit the shot, but it requires too much luck for my liking.

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2013, 06:59:15 PM »
That is why you get to hit that shot off a tee.

Andy Troeger

Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2013, 07:02:26 PM »
The US better have a good next hour or so, or this thing is over. It is a fun course to watch on TV, with perhaps a better setup than I remember for the Sr. PGA.

Bart Bradley

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Re: Colorado Golf Club - pre Solheim pics
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2013, 08:33:36 PM »
What did they do to the areas off the fairway?  When I was there 2 years ago, it was jungle.  Now, nearly every ball is findable and playable.  Looks much more fun to play.

Bart