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Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2013, 10:41:53 AM »
The back nine at Merion

Carl Johnson

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2013, 10:50:03 AM »
Carousel - old style.  The Great Northern in Helena, MT is pretty cool.

Phil McDade

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2013, 10:52:03 AM »
A tie between the old wooden roller coaster at Coney Island and the old wooden roller coaster at Arnold's Park in Iowa.

I've only been truly scared for my life on one amusement park ride, and that was at Coney Island. It felt like it was going to fall apart at any second. Terrifying, and I wouldn't want to ride it every day, but worth experiencing at least once. Rode it nearly 20 years ago, when Coney Island was at its zenith for near-decrepit-ness, so the setting added to the experience.

The old coaster at Arnold's Park, near the Lake Okoboji chain of lakes, is one I could ride all day. Just a great old coaster, with tight turns, a rickety ride, leaves hanging off tree branches that you can practically grab, and rarely a long line.

Jason Topp

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2013, 11:54:50 AM »
The old coaster at Arnold's Park, near the Lake Okoboji chain of lakes, is one I could ride all day. Just a great old coaster, with tight turns, a rickety ride, leaves hanging off tree branches that you can practically grab, and rarely a long line.

Phil - did you ever go in the sugar bowl from the old days.  It was a gigantic hardwood bowl with a knob in the middle that spun around and kids played king of the mountain while it spun.  It was one of the most dangerous things I have ever seen created on purpose but it was so much fun.  Surprisingly it does not exist any more.

As to the original question my answer is the exit. 

Mike Hendren

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2013, 12:10:05 PM »
The Incredible Hulk coaster at Universal.  I literally staggered off the ride, sweating profusely to the delight of my family.  

Then again, I remain a sucker for bumper cars - love the smell of sparking metal!

Bogey
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Eric_Terhorst

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2013, 12:13:20 PM »
The Giant Dipper, Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk

Classic thrill ride in an unbeatable setting.  Like the nearby Pasatiempo!

Alan Carter

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2013, 01:32:43 PM »
Toss up between....

Millenium Force at Cedar Point and X2 at Six Flags Magic Mountain
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Jason Thurman

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2013, 01:46:19 PM »
I started this topic after I took an impromptu twilight trip to Disneyland on Saturday after arriving in Anaheim for a conference. Lines were short as the children were heading to bed and a buddy and I crushed Disneyland Park, riding just about everything that two adults can justify.

I've been to Disney parks twice, both as an adult. What stands out every time that I go is the brilliant attention to detail and the way that the rides go beyond just engineering as much speed, height, and "thrill" as possible. Instead, they find this exceptional balance, ebb and flow, and energy. Put simply, they're just ridiculously fun rides that can be enjoyed by almost anyone regardless of age or stomach strength and the attention to detail creates an illusion of an alternate reality. For a brief time, you're transported away from life and into a world of fantasy.

Much like the trend toward longer and more difficult courses in golf, there’s been a trend in theme parks during my lifetime to build bigger, faster, scarier rides. In my youth, I viewed riding “big” rides as some sort of test of intestinal fortitude. It was a right of passage to become tall enough to ride something, and then to find the courage to do it. I suspect the same recesses of my brain that made me want to prove my grown-up-ness by getting on a scary ride also make many golfers want to play very difficult courses from very long tees.

Perhaps the best example of bigger, faster, scarier rides that I can think of is the Son Of Beast debacle at Kings Island. Several people on this thread mentioned The Beast as they’re favorite ride. It’s a classic wooden “runaway mine shaft” coaster. It’s big – the longest wooden coaster in the world with a maximum speed of almost 70 mph. Yet, it’s a very enjoyable ride. It carves through mature forest, is delightfully rickety but generally not too rough (though some days it can be a little jarring, depending on track conditions), and builds to a wonderful “double helix” climax. It’s easily one of my favorites.

Sometime around 2000, the park built Son of Beast. It was the tallest, fastest, and only looping wooden coaster in the world. It looked ferocious, and it was. Even if you were lucky enough to ride when everything worked (some pretty serious injuries occurred when the loop failed on at least one or two occasions), it was a brutal ride. Even as a teenager, I’d be sore for hours afterwards. Looking back now, I can’t imagine what possessed ANYONE to ride it. It was completely awful, but I suppose that aforementioned recess that makes us want to prove our manhood was enough to talk people into thinking they wanted to ride.

The ride was imploded a few years ago. The ride failed for a lot of reasons, but all stemmed from its overzealous size and speed. At the end of the day, it was big and scary and completely without nuance. It’s probably the worst ride I’ve ever ridden, in the sense that as I think back on the five or six trips I took around its track, I can’t think of a single good memory. All I remember is engaging my neck muscles to make sure I didn’t slip a disc.

I see a lot of parallels between golf architecture and theme parks. An obvious one is the importance of ‘pace of play.” No one likes long lines or long waits on tees. But I think the great ones do a lot of other things similarly too. There’s emphasis on creating a real experience and escape, whether it’s done by winding a coaster through the trees or dropping a boat down a ramp and into a lagoon where pirates come alive, or whether it’s done by making bunkers blend into the landscape and maintaining the character inherent in a property. There’s also emphasis on thrill, whether it’s a rollicking roller coaster or the 16th at Cypress. But there’s also some need for restraint, and some need for nuance. There’s a place in the world for 110 mph coasters, but not if they beat the living hell out of everyone who rides them. There’s a place in the world for very difficult golf courses, but it sure helps if they provide some options and challenges feasible for a higher handicap player.

And I think the key to enjoyment of courses and parks is the same – in the end, it’s all about fun. That sense of cavalier enjoyment is ultimately what keeps us coming back to both. And while fun can come in a lot of different forms, it’s always best perceived if we can turn off that part of our brain that makes us feel like we can somehow better prove our manhood by taking on an unpleasant slog.
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JLahrman

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2013, 01:58:54 PM »
While I'm not the most well-travelled amusement parker, and I'm probably biased because I worked at Kings Island as a teenager, another vote for The Beast. Just a great roller coaster all the way around. You've also got to ride it in the dark (it is very dark back in that corner of the park). You've also got to ride it after a thunderstorm when it's all misty. Great stuff.

Here is a POV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgdXxuqoNt8

You can definitely get bruised if you don't brace yourself heading into that double helix tunnel.

I liked the Cyclone at Coney Island; great nostalgic ride, but it wasn't The Beast. The bigger-faster-longer steel versions they keep making up at Cedar Point are fun. But they're not The Beast.

Wooden coasters are the way to go, and getting beat up is part of the point. The Racer at Kings Island actually beats you up more than The Beast (the Racer is the one the Brady Bunch rode in that episode; that's how old The Racer is). I totally agree on Jason's review of the Son of Beast. It was just too violent. It set numerous records for a wooden coaster, but it just wasn't fun at all. Good riddance.
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Phil McDade

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2013, 02:06:29 PM »
The old coaster at Arnold's Park, near the Lake Okoboji chain of lakes, is one I could ride all day. Just a great old coaster, with tight turns, a rickety ride, leaves hanging off tree branches that you can practically grab, and rarely a long line.

Phil - did you ever go in the sugar bowl from the old days.  It was a gigantic hardwood bowl with a knob in the middle that spun around and kids played king of the mountain while it spun.  It was one of the most dangerous things I have ever seen created on purpose but it was so much fun.  Surprisingly it does not exist any more.

As to the original question my answer is the exit.  

Jason:

I grew up in northeastern Iowa, and didn't really come across Arnold's Park until I visited there shortly after meeting my wife (my in-laws live about an hour away). One of the cooler rides I've ever been on was at Geauga Lake (sadly, now closed: http://www.geaugalaketoday.com/), where you'd enter via a side door a circular room with a rubberized mat for walls. You'd have to put your feet, body, and hands flush against the wall, and then the thing would spin around and the floor would slowly drop, with centrifugal force keeping you from falling below. That one always turned me green.

I think I remember a version of that ride you call the sugar bowl -- maybe at Arnold's Park, maybe at Geauga Lake. Liability lawyers must've been more lenient back then!
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Dan Kelly

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2013, 02:16:31 PM »
The rickety old all-wood roller coaster at Excelsior Amusement Park (NLE), Excelsior, Minnesota.

Hearing it creak and groan multiplied the thrill.

My favorite roller-coaster golf hole, at the moment, is No. 14 at Midland Hills CC (Seth Raynor, ca. 1920, Roseville, Minnesota).
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Doug Wright

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2013, 02:23:25 PM »
I really like Space Mountain at Disney World, but most recently liked The Tower of Terror more. The Twilight Zone theme is my vintage. As you say Jason, Disney does these rides right. i've sworn off the bigger coasters as they all seem like Son of Beast to me.
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Paul Gray

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Re: What is your favorite roller coaster or amusement park ride?
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2013, 03:34:28 PM »
It's a good analogy, Jud.

How many groups of girls do you remember as a teenager trying to coerce one another into riding the biggest, fastest ride? OK, maybe a few did when the boys were about but predominantly it was the male of the species which sought to tame the beast.

Until we feel we've passed our own subconscious rite of passage ritual (or spent time realising we need not have one) we're not able to look beyond the testosterone and appreciate beauty over brawn.

And further, it doesn't simply apply to the people that ride the coaster. What of the designer, the maintenance guys etc? Does the designer not have to find an inner sense of acceptance before he or she can slow things down a bit and find a more creative path? And don't many of the maintenance crew take pleasure in hearing the screams?
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

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