Dick, I can't give you an actual yardage but I guess it to be in the 215-230 range. My lament stems from two facts. 1. Herr Doak once wrote in these annals that his hope was to tempt the better player to drive the green, coming in from that left side. And 2. Somewhere in my recesses I recall there being a small sliver of fairway there. This sliver may have not made the final cut, when poor decisions were made about reducing the irrigated areas, (like the amorphous teeing grounds) that first summer. The irony in that is that it wasn't until well after those 6 weeks of 105 tempts with convection oven winds that they realized the entire system's mode was still in surround grow in.