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John Burnes

What's in a name..?
« on: May 12, 2013, 10:41:49 PM »
Trenton Country Club has a secondary name of Oaklands that over the years, has referred to the mansion (now clubhouse), the land the club sits on today, and the golf course.

Can you name some clubs that have a unique secondary name for the clubhouse/land/course?  For example, Philadelphia Country Club's main course is known as Spring Mill.

Any input is appreciated.

Mike_Trenham

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 11:56:00 PM »
Very common in Ireland?  Can't remember the secondary names..

County Limerick
County Sligo
Domegal Golf Club
County Clare

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Wayne_Kozun

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013, 12:12:11 AM »
Isn't Baltimore CC also know as Five Farms?  Here in Ontario, Canada there is Hamilton G&CC which is also known as Ancaster, and St. Thomas which is also known as Union as the secondary name is more accurate geographically in both instances.  On the Open rota there is Royal Liverpool/Hoylake.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 10:25:35 AM by Wayne_Kozun »

James Boon

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 02:59:12 AM »
John,

The two that spring immediately to mind are The Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers and Notts GC, whose courses are known as Muirfield and Hollinwell. In both cases this is quite formal, and at Notts we even use Notts GC (Hollinwell) on the website, letterheads, documents etc. I believe in both cases this is because the club has changed course several times over their history so I imagine the use of a second name started to differentiate between the old and new course over which they play?

In Scotland there are many course that have several clubs attached which will mean two names associated with a course depending upon which club you are playing.

Courses with a formal name often also go by their local name ie the town or village nearest to the course, both locally but also to those who have an affection for the course:

Royal West Norfolk - Brancaster
Royal North Devon - Westward Ho!
Royal Cinque Ports - Deal
County Louth - Baltray

...to name just a few.

The previously mentioned Hoylake is the same but I'm not sure in all these case how official or formal the second name is? I suspect several will now use both names on websites for instance as some people may only be searching for the course under its informal name and they will need to utilise this to get more hits via search engines?

Cheers,

James
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 06:00:15 PM by James Boon »
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Rory Connaughton

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 08:35:01 AM »
Mike

  County Sligo = Rosses Point
Donegal = Murvagh

Thomas Dai

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 09:31:42 AM »
I've heard these courses referred to by these other names -

Berwick upon Tweed = Goswick
Royal Aberdeen = Balgownie
West Cornwall = Lelant
West Sussex = Pulborourgh
North West = Buncrana
Stinchcombe Hill = Dursleigh

All the best

Bill_McBride

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 09:33:48 AM »
Royal St George = Sandwich, again the name of the village nearby.

Sean_A

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 10:26:57 AM »
Worcester G&CC is called Boughton Park by locals - the course was built on the estate. 

The Worcestershire GC is often called Malvern for the town of location.

Royal St Davids is Harlech for the town of location.

Cleeve Hill is often called Cleeve Cloud after the name of the local golf club.

Carne gets called Belmullet for the town of location and golf club name. 

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Ally Mcintosh

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 10:42:59 AM »
Couple more:

Royal Dublin = Dollymount
The Island = Malahide (although this is somewhat outdated now there is also a Malahide GC)

V. Kmetz

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 07:24:53 PM »
Royal Liverpool = Hoylake...right?
"The tee shot must first be hit straight and long between a vast bunker on the left which whispers 'slice' in the player's ear, and a wilderness on the right which induces a hurried hook." -

Bill_McBride

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 07:49:13 PM »
Royal Liverpool = Hoylake...right?

Right.  Hoylake is the name of the village. 

Colin Macqueen

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2013, 03:44:22 AM »
John,

I think for many a day Blairgowrie Golf Club in Perthshire was simply known as Rosemount.   A Braid design with with MacKenzie influence.
Below is a snitched photo of  their delightful clubhouse!



Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Thomas Dai

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2013, 04:15:40 AM »
A few more -

Royal North Devon = Westward Ho!
North Wales GC = Llandudno
Fraserburgh = Corbie Hill
The Herefordshire = Warmsley
Kilmarnock = Barassie
Dingle = Ceann Sibeal
Moray = Lossiemouth
Crail = Balcomie

All the best
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 05:10:25 AM by Thomas Dai »

Ricardo Ramirez Calvo

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2013, 08:58:33 AM »
In Argentina, the New Course of the Mar del Plata Golf Club is referred by many people (except for very conservative members of the Club like myself) as Tulsa. Everybody thinks it has something to do with the city in the US, but in fact Tulsa stands for the initials of the real estate company that sold the land to the Club back in the forties: Tierras, Urbanizaciones y Loteos Sociedad Anónima (T.U.L.S.A.). The Old Course is known as Playa Grande, the name of the beach that used to exist besides the course until the port was built.
Ricardo

Tom Culley

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2013, 09:22:47 AM »
The one that stands out to me is:

Royal Worlington & Newmarket Golf Club = Mildenhall = The Sacred Nine
"Play the ball as it lies, play the course as you find it, and if you cannot do either, do what is fair. But to do what is fair, you need to know the Rules of Golf."

jeffwarne

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 09:51:48 AM »
Very common in Ireland?  Can't remember the secondary names..

County Limerick
County Sligo
Domegal Golf Club
County Clare




County Louth-Baltray
Connemara-Balaconealy sp?

Thomas,
Not sure Northwest is called Buncrana(but it wouldn't surprise me if it was  ;D) as there is a Buncrana GC, a nine holer
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astavrides

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM »
Delousyaga/Delaveaga
Birdspit/Birdsfoot
Malaventura/Buenaventura
Lake La Costa/La Costa
Sloppy Hills/Poppy Hills
Azusa Browns/Azusa Greens
Inniscrotum/Inniscrone
Sunnyjail Muni/Sunnyvale Muni
Unpoplar Creek/Poplar Creek


Garland Bayley

Re: What's in a name..?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 06:16:19 PM »
Monarch Ponds/Monarch Dunes
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