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Hope Valley CC (Ross / Silva), Durham, NC -- A Photo Tour!! - Hole 18 Posted
Mark Saltzman:
After crossing the length of the clubhouse, and passing by the 1st tee and practice area, the golfer arrives at the picturesque 10th tee. Like the 1st hole, the 10th plays from in front of the clubhouse and drops into the valley.
The green, as seen from the front-left, is very deep and falling off left and long...
The 11th is an awesome hole. At over 420 yards and playing uphill this hole is very difficult. There is OB right and a stream that runs along the left, but there is ample fairway width...
The uphill approach to the 11th green:
The 12th doglegs around a pair of carry bunkers, and is another strong down then up par-4.
An excellent green at the 12th with a false-front short...
And interesting green shape with a small finger at the back-left and significant tilt from right to left...
The 13th is a short par-4, perhaps driveable for a select few. From the tee the golfer must decide whether to challenge a cross-bunker that sits 100 yards short of the green:
A strong mid-length par-3 at the 14th with deep fronting bunkers and a back-to-front tilted green that makes a miss long a disaster:
Cory Lewis:
Alright, we're almost to the one thing Bruce doesn't like about the course ;)
Mark Saltzman:
--- Quote from: Cory Lewis on May 10, 2013, 07:35:22 PM ---Alright, we're almost to the one thing Bruce doesn't like about the course ;)
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Yeah, it's awkward, though I think the fairway bunkering makes more sense with the current set up.
Bruce Wellmon:
--- Quote from: Cory Lewis on May 10, 2013, 07:35:22 PM ---Alright, we're almost to the one thing Bruce doesn't like about the course ;)
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True, there is one thing I don't like about the course. When you come off 13 green, if you turn left you are basically on 15 tee. 14 tee, a par 3, is off the back right of 13 green. So, you play 14, and walk back almost to 13 green to tee off. Awkward ? Or just drop your bag on 15 tee and pick 'em up after you play the par 3? I think 15 used to be a par 4, and it morphed into a par 5.That's my one complaint. 16 could be a par 5, or perhaps used to be a par 5. So if we "need " a par 5 , should it have been 15 or 16? Or should the course be a par 69? Or since Streamsong made the walk back okay, I just made something out of nothing.
Mark Saltzman:
My understanding is that the 15th was lengthened from a long par-4 to a short par-5 and as a result an awkward walkback from the 14th green to the 15th tee was created. Still, the 15th is another excellent hole where Ross makes excellent use of more severe land and I think the current bunker scheme works well with the lengthened tees
On the left side of the fairway, guarded by a deep fairway bunker, is a turbo boost...
The uphill approach to the green...
The 16th was once a par-5 but now plays as a 460 yard par-4. Though blind from the tee, the golfer has a sense that playing left is ideal...
And he is correct as the fairway tilts right and bailed out tee shots will find the rough and lose precious roll yardage
The 17th is a 400 yard par-4 where the golfer must fit a tee shot between a stream on the right and trees on the left.
Hope Valley finishes with a demanding uphill 210 yard par-3 with a shallow green, foreshortening bunkers and a false front!
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