The Redan isn't the only hole

[Patrick_Mucci]

to employ a deflection plate as an integral part of the design.

I enjoyed using the deflection plate on the 1st hole on the Blue at Streamsong.

Deflection plates often magnify the effective target green.

What are some of the great deflection plate holes, other than punchbowls.

[Bill Brightly]

Would you call this a deflection plate? Hole #1 at Portsalon, Ireland:

[David_Madison]

Pat,

How about the 10th hole at Sandhills, especially for a cup on the left half of the green?

[Paul Carey]

First hole at Old Memorial on the left side is a great use of a deflection plate.  It comes in very handy on a morning round after a long night in that club house!

[Mark Saltzman]

Pat,

How about the 10th hole at Sandhills, especially for a cup on the left half of the green?

How about left of 3 at Sand Hills?  Or even moreso, left of 16?

Left of 12 at Fishers Island.

There really are a lot of these out there..

[Garland Bayley]

Chambers Bay has been criticized for having too many of them.

[David Whitmer]

#3 at Ballyneal, left of the green.

#11 at Augusta National, although every now and then the deflection plate short-right of the green deflects a ball right into the pond!

[Patrick_Mucci]

David,

The feature you reference on # 11 at ANGC isn't connected to or an integral part of the green, thus I wouldn't include it as a deflection plate that's integral to the design of the green, but it certainly can function as a turbo boost.

[Mark McKeever]

The first hole at Morris County GC comes to mind quickly.  The second shot is very redan like as you can funnel your shot to the left from the right side of the green feeling very similar to a redan. 

Mark

[Sean Leary]

Chambers Bay has been criticized for having too many of them.

Do you agree there are too many ?

[Ally Mcintosh]

13 at Royal County Down is one of my favourites

[Bill Seitz]

Kingsley has a ton (right of #6, left of #11, right of #14 over the bunker, right on the redan-ish 16th, and right of #18), but my favorites are the two kick plates on #12.  If the pin is up front, the deflection plate is on your left.  If the pin is back behind the swale, the kick plate is the hill on the right.  It's tough to see it at first, but if you play it a few times, you definitely learn that you want to aim a little left to a front pin, and a little right to a back pin.  The general flow of the land there is right to left, so the hill on the front left looks bigger than it plays, and the hill on the back right looks smaller than it plays. Some pictures of it at the bottom of the linked page:
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,37381.400.html

[Ronald Montesano]

Mark McKeever...do you have a photo of the right side of that green? The one you posted looks like a flat green with no deflection plate.

[Mark McKeever]

I don't Ron, and unfortunately this picture sort of sucks.  LOL.  I debated posting it actually because of exactly what you mentioned.  I am going to head back in the spring and get some more pictures.

If anyone else has a picture, post it up please!  Its nothing SEVERE like Somerset Hills or anything, however a draw hitting on the right side will funnel to that flag assuming the greens are rolling at their normal pace.


Mark

[Pete_Pittock]

Thirtyish years ago I hit an indifferent shot on the then 4th hole of Colwood National near the Portland airport. It hit right of the green and kicked onto the putting surface. Three days later I was back there playing a tournament and when I arrived at the tee I saw the hole cut about where my ball had stopped. I aimed at the kickplate, hit the ball, the kickplate, the hole and the bottom of the cup for my only hole in one to date. It is my favorite kickplate, ever.

[Joey Chase]

The front right side of the 8th green at Yale is fantastic fun with a front or middle pin.

[Mark McKeever]

Good one Joey.  Its even useful on a back pin if played off of the kickpad correctly.

Mark

[Patrick_Mucci]

Joey,

Yes, good call , that's a very useful and fun feature to interface with.

I would imagine that CBM/SR/CB courses have an abundance of deflection plates.

I thought the neat thing about # 1 at Streamsong Blue was the blind nature of the deflection plate, which also brings up the issue of local knowlrdge

[David_Tepper]

Short and left of #17 green at Royal Dornoch.

[Doug Wright]

Joey,

Yes, good call , that's a very useful and fun feature to interface with.

I would imagine that CBM/SR/CB courses have an abundance of deflection plates.

I thought the neat thing about # 1 at Streamsong Blue was the blind nature of the deflection plate, which also brings up the issue of local knowlrdge

Pat, I agree that this is a nice feature for the opening hole at Streamsong Blue. Both times I played the hole I thought I'd missed the green to the right--and it is blind--only to find the ball on the back of the green--a happy way to start the round!

One of my favorites in this category is the area to the right side of #8 green at Pacific Dunes--missing the green to the right really is the target when playing to a right pin on that hole.

[John Penny]

I would categorize deflection points 2 ways:

Logical: i.e. Redan.  The play is short right to let the ball work to the pin.  Other shots bring worse things into play.

Tempting: i.e. Ballyneal #3.  You won't convince me playing left off of the hill is the correct play.  Its a simple short iron wedge and if you go right at it missing left gets the deflection and missing right doesn't kill you.  However, if you aim at the kick plate and miss left = bad news.

Both are fun and make you think.

My $0.02

[Patrick_Mucci]

"Deflection plate" - can you define this Pat? Cheers.

Earthen works that form an integral part of the green or green surrounds that feed balls into the putting surface might be a good start

[Ben Sims]

Earthen works that form an integral part of the green or green surrounds that feed balls into the putting surface might be a good start

And how exactly does the "surrounds" in front of 11 green at ANGC not meet this definition? 

[Ben Sims]

Chambers Bay has been criticized for having too many of them.

Do you agree there are too many ?

To jump in, I wouldn't agree with that assertion.  The biggest reason why is that many of those kickers at CB seem to be "false" kickers.  What I mean by this is that they kick too much and send your shot into greater trouble. 

[Matthew Essig]

Chambers Bay has been criticized for having too many of them.

Do you agree there are too many ?

To jump in, I wouldn't agree with that assertion.  The biggest reason why is that many of those kickers at CB seem to be "false" kickers.  What I mean by this is that they kick too much and send your shot into greater trouble. 

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