Name the course - unusual features

[Thomas Dai]

Here are some unusual features on some courses.

Where are they?

[Adam Lawrence]

I think the first one might be the most terrifying first tee shot I've ever come across. That on one side, the beach on the other and frankly not a lot of room between them. Thankfully they have a merciful local rule that allows you to drop at the top of the seawall (penalty one stroke) if you go on the beach, rather than playing stroke and distance.

[Thomas Dai]

Adam,

This wouldn't happen to be the hole you're thinking of would it! A really great hole, but as you so rightly say, a terrifying first tee shot especially with the prevailing wind from the left. I wonder how two former US Open champions coped with it (a clue as to the location).

For those who don't know this precise spot, the putting green and the 18th green are in the foreground, the 1st fairway stretches out behind and at the top right corner of the photo there is one of the most gloriously located fortified castles you could ever hope to see or visit.



All the best

[Sean_A]

Adam,

This wouldn't happen to be the hole you're thinking of would it! A really great hole, but as you so rightly say, a terrifying first tee shot especially with the prevailing wind from the left. I wonder how two former US Open champions coped with it (a clue as to the location).

For those who don't know this precise spot, the putting green and the 18th green are in the foreground, the 1st fairway stretches out behind and at the top right corner of the photo there is one of the most gloriously located fortified castles you could ever hope to see or visit.




All the best

I have never seen the course, but I reckon it MUST be____________ based on the clue and the far right of the photo. 

The 3rd pic I would guess is that certain course in East Anglia where Bernardo learned his golf, but again, I haven't seen it.

The 4th pic I definitely know.  Pay attention to the Dragon.

Ciao

[jeffwarne]

On the course in the 4th-seems there's a cool pub a couple holes before, and after .

[Thomas Dai]

Cryptic clues and cryptic answers.

1st photo - 4 major champions and a world champion grand prix driver have all lived within 5 miles of this course.

2nd photo - if you stood on the ramparts and turned around 180* you should be able see a Walker Cup venue which might one day hold The Open.

3rd photo - I wonder if Bernardo ever sliced so far over the sea that his ball his ended up in some tulip fields

4th photo - 30-3, the dragons are in the little house pub and are very, very happy - "oggi, oggi, oggi!"

All the best

[Neil Regan]

Here are some unusual features on some courses.

Where are they?

This one is truly under the radar.

Bernard Lovell reminisces

[Ronald Montesano]

This is not to call Thomas out publicly, but to protect the site.

I suspect that anyone who posts copyrighted images has contacted the photographer/owner of the image first and received permission to post the image here. If you have not, you are jeopardizing the site and need to do so immediately, or remove the image. Just giving credit is not enough. Permission is required.

[Neil Regan]

Here are some unusual features on some courses.

Where are they?

And this one has a grand connection to Cypress Point.

[Neil Regan]

This is not to call Thomas out publicly, but to protect the site.

I suspect that anyone who posts copyrighted images has contacted the photographer/owner of the image first and received permission to post the image here. If you have not, you are jeopardizing the site and need to do so immediately, or remove the image. Just giving credit is not enough. Permission is required.

Ronald,

  Two of the photos, at least, are licensed for reuse. Check out the Creative Commons info available via the copyright notice stamped on pictures 2 and 3.

[Thomas Dai]

All photos, even my own, now removed. Apologies. Site integrity important. I can't access to replace the quote/copying of them though, others will have to do that. The answers are -

1 = Royal Jersey
2 = Nigg Bay, Aberdeen
3 = Felixstowe Ferry
4 = Nefyn

All the best

[Neil Regan]

Thomas,

  You did nothing wrong. Those 2 photos are licensed for use exactly as you posted them.

I think #2 is Balnagask, an Aberdeen public. Nigg Bay is a club that plays there, I think.
The course is dominated by a lighthouse built in 1833 by Robert Stevenson.
His grandson was Robert Louis Stevenson, who lived near Cypress Point back in the days before golf.

[RJ_Daley]

Not to get this into a debate of legalistic triviality.  But, since we have some comptetent lawyers who read this site, I would like some of them to weigh in on this copyright issue.  If one uses a jpeg from another website, even if the photo has a sub-caption that states it is a copyright photo, can it be posted in a not-for-profit web page discussion forum, where people are merely looking at it for discussion purposes?  

Or to refine this, when one uses the copy and paste the website url of a jpeg photo from a place like Google Images, even if it says copyright somewhere in the web page or source that Google Images got it from; can it be posted for discussion purposes here, since there is no money or financial remuneration being had by the poster using the photo to illustrate a discussion point of view?

I suspect there is no requirement at all, and at the worst a mere note below the photo saying, this photo taken by......

Now, if one were reselling or making some financial gain out of posting the photo, I can understand that is a very different story.  Such would be writing a book for sale, and using a copyright photo.  Of course that is understandable.

Maybe Aiden Bradley might weigh in on this question.

[Ronald Montesano]

copywrite...the act of writing copy

copyright...legal protection

[RJ_Daley]

copywrite...the act of writing copy

copyright...legal protection

Duly noted and fixed.  Be advised, my grammar school English teachers tended to retire early and drink themselves to death thereafter.

[Mark Pearce]

Any reproduction of a copyright work, whether for financial gain or otherwise, without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of copyright, unless it falls within a statutory exemption, which this site does not.

[Garland Bayley]

Any reproduction of a copyright work, whether for financial gain or otherwise, without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of copyright, unless it falls within a statutory exemption, which this site does not.

It seems to me that this site has as one of it's functions the education of readers. Is not judicious use for education purposes a "statutory exemption"?

[Mark Pearce]

Garland,

Under UK law (and I don't imagine US law is much different) the broad educational establishment applies to copying provided the copying:

a) is done by a person giving or receiving instruction;
b) is not done by means of a reprographic process; and
c) is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgment

and provided that the instruction is for a non-commercial purpose.

With the exception of Pat Mucci, there's not much instruction going on here!

There are fair dealing exceptions for research and private study but, again, I don't think this site qualifies.

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