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Howard Riefs

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2013, 12:07:16 PM »
Howard,

Please pencil in Barry Cohen as well, thx.

What are you, his personal secretary now? ;)

And copilot... ;)

I have no preference of seats on Barry's plane for the flight to Polk County.
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Bill_McBride

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2013, 03:44:28 PM »
Please count me as interested and keep me in the loop for the Phosphate Fete 2014.

You will love the courses!

Matt Schmidt

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2013, 03:13:12 PM »
Please count me as interested and keep me in the loop for the Phosphate Fete 2014.

You will love the courses!
I think that's a safe bet!  If we both end up there, lets get team "never say die" together again!

Bill_McBride

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2013, 04:32:08 PM »
Please count me as interested and keep me in the loop for the Phosphate Fete 2014.

You will love the courses!
I think that's a safe bet!  If we both end up there, lets get team "never say die" together again!

Still one of my favorite four ball matches ever!

Richard Choi

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
I would suggest...

Streamsong Spring Soiree

Jeff Shelman

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2013, 11:36:34 PM »
I'm most certainly interested. Obviously dates would be a factor, but I'd love to make it happen.

Howard Riefs

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing? YES!
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2013, 07:14:23 PM »
UPDATED

I heard back from the Streamsong sales manager and general manager about the group package for 2014.  

Dates:  I requested the dates of Thursday, March 13 to Sunday, March 16, 2014. That’s the first weekend after daylight savings, which was suggested by Mike Whitaker and others.  

Package details:  For starters, I inquired about the clubhouse guestrooms that we had for this year’s trip. (The group package rates for the 212 room Lodge are not available yet.)  With the opening of the 212 rooms in the Lodge this winter In 2014, Streamsong will offer two packages for the be offering the Clubhouse Guestrooms:

* “All Inclusive Clubhouse Golf Package" (my name for it): resort within the resort” package. This means that the package for these rooms will Includes all meals (breakfast, lunch and dinner) for each night of stay, golf (including replays) and lodging.

                                            PER NIGHT/PER PERSON                                 TOTAL FOR 3 NIGHTS/PER PERSON (incl tax)
Single occupancy:        $1,298/night + tax (7%) $839/night + tax (12%)               $4,166  $2,819
Double occupancy:       $   839/night + tax (7%) $649/night + tax (12%)               $2,693  $2,180

* "Clubhouse Stay and Play Package":[/u] Includes golf (including replays) for each night of stay, breakfast and lodging. (This is the same package as the current Clubhouse Stay and Play package.)

                                    PER NIGHT/PER PERSON                                     TOTAL FOR 3 NIGHTS/PER PERSON (incl tax)
Single occupancy:                       $715/night + tax (12%)                                                                      $2,402
Double occupancy:                      $535/night + tax (12%)                                                                      $1,797 [/color]

Pricing: The pricing of this Clubhouse Golf Package is somewhat eye-opening, startling, (insert other adjective) particularly in light of what we paid this year and even based on the prime season rates currently offered in the resort’s Stay and Play package (http://www.streamsongresort.com/packages/stay-play-package). Heck, even when benchmarked against Streamsong's peers.

For comparison purposes….

The 2013 Clubhouse Golf package for our GCA outing in March was discounted 20% off the top for a pre-opening rate; it also featured four rounds of golf, breakfasts and lodging. Not included: replay rounds ($90); the optional round ($175) for Thursday arrival day; lunch or dinner:

                                                                                      TOTAL FOR 3 NIGHTS/PER PERSON (incl tax)
Single occupancy:                                                                               $1,660
Double occupancy:                                                                              $1,184


Streamsong’s current Clubhouse Stay and Play package includes golf (including replays) for each night of stay, breakfast and lodging. The rate (available from 12/26/2012 - 06/16/2013) that synchs with our March dates:

                                    PER NIGHT/PER PERSON              TOTAL FOR 3 NIGHTS/PER PERSON (incl tax)
Single occupancy:            $665/night + tax (7 12%)                                  $2,134 $2,234
Double occupancy:           $495/night + tax (7 12%)                                  $1,589 $1,663

 
As you can see, the Clubhouse Stay and Play Package rate in 2014 is less than $50 more than it is in 2013.

Suffice it to say,I didn’t sign a contract for the rooms in the Clubhouse.  

As a next step, the sales general manager will provide me with the group package rates for the Lodge Golf Package once it is available in a couple weeks.  I also requested a golf-only group rate for those who don’t want to stay on premises.  I’ll post both once I receive them.  

More to come….  
« Last Edit: April 12, 2013, 02:45:22 PM by Howard Riefs »
"Golf combines two favorite American pastimes: Taking long walks and hitting things with a stick."  ~P.J. O'Rourke

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2013, 07:51:03 PM »
Howard,

Those rates are beyond "stunning", perhaps someone will title a book named after the 2014 season rates,  "Great Expectations"

Yikes

Eric Smith

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2013, 08:00:36 PM »
Howard,

Sure it wasn't April 1 when they got back to you with these???

Bill_McBride

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2013, 08:11:37 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

Beyond ridiculous.    The golden goose is being fileted.  I wonder who at Streamsong recommended these rates. 

Tim Martin

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2013, 08:17:35 PM »
Those rates have to be the greatest ad campaign ever to head to Bandon. Yikes!!!!!! :o

Peter Pallotta

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2013, 08:20:51 PM »
Bill - did you say 'golden goose'? You just read my mind. And David Mamet (Glengarry Glen Ross) read yours and mine both:

                         MOSS
            It's not right.

                         AARONOW
            It's not.

                         MOSS
            No.

                         AARONOW
            And it's not right to the customers.

                         MOSS
            I know it's not.  I'll tell you,
            you got, you know, you got...what
            did I learn as a kid on Western?
            Don't sell a guy one car.  Sell him
            five cars over fifteen years.

                         AARONOW
            That's right

                         MOSS
            Eh...?

                         AARONOW
            That's right

                         MOSS
            Goddamn right, that's right.  Guys
            come on: "Oh, the blah blah blah, I
            know what I'll do: I'll go in and
            rob everyone blind and go to
            Argentina cause nobody ever thought
            of this before."

                         AARONOW
            ...that's right...

                         MOSS
            Eh?

                         AARONOW
            No.  That's absolutely right.

                         MOSS
            And so they kill the goose.  I, I,
            I'll...and a f--kin' man, worked
            all his life has got to...

                         AARONOW
            ...that's right...

                         MOSS
            ...cower in his boots...

                         AARONOW
                   (simultaneously with "boots")
            Shoes, boots, yes...

                         MOSS
            For some f--kin' "Sell ten thousand
            and you win the steak knives..."

                         AARONOW
            For some sales pro...

                         MOSS
            ...sales promotion, "You lose, then
            we fire your..." No.  It's
            medieval... it's wrong. "Or we're
            going to fire your ass." It's wrong.

                         AARONOW
            Yes!

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2013, 08:24:00 PM »
Hey,

At those rates, I"m going to stay at a nice hotel in South Beach and drive a half hour to play Trump every day  ;D

Good to great Bars, Restaurants, nightclubs, pools and gorgeous women lounging around all of the above aren't a bad alternative.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2013, 08:26:06 PM »
Bill - did you say 'golden goose'? You just read my mind. And David Mamet (Glengarry Glen Ross) read yours and mine both:

                         MOSS
            It's not right.

                         AARONOW
            It's not.

                         MOSS
            No.

                         AARONOW
            And it's not right to the customers.

                         MOSS
            I know it's not.  I'll tell you,
            you got, you know, you got...what
            did I learn as a kid on Western?
            Don't sell a guy one car.  Sell him
            five cars over fifteen years.

                         AARONOW
            That's right

                         MOSS
            Eh...?

                         AARONOW
            That's right

                         MOSS
            Goddamn right, that's right.  Guys
            come on: "Oh, the blah blah blah, I
            know what I'll do: I'll go in and
            rob everyone blind and go to
            Argentina cause nobody ever thought
            of this before."

                         AARONOW
            ...that's right...

                         MOSS
            Eh?

                         AARONOW
            No.  That's absolutely right.

                         MOSS
            And so they kill the goose.  I, I,
            I'll...and a f--kin' man, worked
            all his life has got to...

                         AARONOW
            ...that's right...

                         MOSS
            ...cower in his boots...

                         AARONOW
                   (simultaneously with "boots")
            Shoes, boots, yes...

                         MOSS
            For some f--kin' "Sell ten thousand
            and you win the steak knives..."

                         AARONOW
            For some sales pro...

                         MOSS
            ...sales promotion, "You lose, then
            we fire your..." No.  It's
            medieval... it's wrong. "Or we're
            going to fire your ass." It's wrong.

                         AARONOW
            Yes!


ABC - Always Be Closing. 

Coffee is for closers!

Nice work PP!

Peter Pallotta

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2013, 08:35:22 PM »
Ah, Bill - talk about a beat that would sap anyone's self-confidence. I mean, I'm telling you: it's not a world of men, Billy. It's a world of the 12 dollar hot dog, and a bottle of beer into the mix. And then a man's, a man, what's he supposed to, he's supposed to say, "oh, please, sir, can I have so more?". Eh? Yeah, I know: "Well, hey, that's the, blah, blah, blah, that's the..." F--k the free market! F--k it!  You want me to come down there and, what, give you my kid's college fund, you want me to steal my wife's engagement ring, for what, for a f--k,ing round of golf and a goddamn hot dog?! That's not right. They killed it. They went ahead and killed this f--king thing.

« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 09:25:39 PM by PPallotta »

Jonathan Mallard

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2013, 08:38:59 PM »
Yowza...

Decent percentage bump to say the least.

If they do follow form and put something in their 10-k this year, it will be interesting to note what they put next year - or if they omit it altogether.

Color me as certainly not interested at those prices. At the single occupancy rate, that's more than a decent tour in Scotland.

Two people paying the double occupancy rate can have a heck of a time over 1.5 weeks across the pond. Or in Bandon. Or, I suspect, in Oz.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 09:06:35 PM by Jonathan Mallard »

Connor Dougherty

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2013, 09:05:45 PM »
As a college student, I don't have the kind of budget to do this haha. As it is, I find I'll probably be sleeping in my car a night or two as I drive around the US this summer to check out courses.

Perhaps the Best Western down the road will become the housing headquarters for GCA.com??? I believe it's where Ben Crenshaw stayed when he was helping out.
"The website is just one great post away from changing the world of golf architecture.  Make it." --Bart Bradley

Mike Sweeney

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2013, 09:13:40 PM »
My wife would never allow me to sell our Disney timeshare points, but at those rates, a trip to Paris would be nice and I think she could be talked into it.

Wow. And for those that don't know, I have lived in Manhattan for 20+ years.

Pat Mucci,

Do you still think "The Vibe" is not going to change ???  :D

Who wants to put a bid on Sugarloaf !!
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 09:48:25 PM by Mike Sweeney »

Bill_McBride

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2013, 09:46:20 PM »
Ah, Bill - talk about a beat that would sap anyone's self-confidence. I mean, I'm telling you: it's not a world of men, Billy. It's a world of the 12 dollar hot dog, and a bottle of beer into the mix. And then a man's, a man, what's he supposed to, he's supposed to say, "oh, please, sir, can I have so more?". Eh? Yeah, I know: "Well, hey, that's the, blah, blah, blah, that's the..." F--k the free market! F--k it!  You want me to come down there and, what, give you my kid's college fund, you want me to steal my wife's engagement ring, for what, for a f--k,ing round of golf and a goddamn hot dog?! That's not right. They killed it. They went ahead and killed this f--king thing.



Well written sir.  That may be Mamet's attorneys on the other line, I recommend you not answer.   

Bruce Wellmon

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2013, 09:56:16 PM »
Howard,
Sure it wasn't April 1 when they got back to you with these???

Call your Aunts, get us a table instead.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2013, 10:11:45 PM »
Mike,

At those prices the vibe will get even better as you'll have the place to yourself

Jerry Kluger

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Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2013, 10:26:32 PM »
Howard: I have heard that Kohler is very expensive - how does this compare in price? 

Peter Pallotta

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2013, 10:30:53 PM »
Well, stop the presses - Pat Mucci and I (as different a pair of fellas as you'll ever find, save for the charming self-deprecation and carefree insouciance that we share) are herein, and for the first time ever, in absolute agreement. Streamsong decision-makers take note: if both a heartless but well-travelled capitalist and a muddle-headed but monastic socialist agree that you're on the wrong road, you'd better just stop real quick, and turn right around. Disgruntled Canadian socialists won't hurt your bottom line very much, but if/when the well-travelled capitalists start complaining then you know your business model is in serious trouble. (What else do you think well travelled capitalists do except give each other secret financial advice and gossip about where -- and where not -- to travel? Oh, and also, they play golf -- lots and lots of golf, just before splurging on expensive dinners and the finest wines.)

Peter    
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 10:35:09 PM by PPallotta »

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2013, 11:12:01 PM »
PPallotta,

I can draw but one conclusion............. they're like so many on this site....................... morons  ;D

Sam Morrow

Re: Streamsong 2014 GCA Outing -- UPDATE
« Reply #74 on: April 10, 2013, 12:07:06 AM »
Are booze and hookers included in this pirce?