1 is really strange with the big tree...this might work really well if there were fairway on both sides
Opinions. If you don't like tangling with the tree lay up short right of it with a FW. Challenge it with a driver.
2&3 might be decent if there was just a bit more space, but they are just too narrow...like a 15 yard window on 2 and slightly more on 3. I don't consider them completely bad though, the thought is there
I'll grant the course as a rule demands accurate driving. On a few holes it demands too much IMO (10 and 18). I don't think #2 is too narrow. #3 uses the rolling terrain very nicely, hit driver and risk having your shot directed downhill right towards the bunker. Lay up onto the flat part of the fairway or hit the left side and roll down to the middle.
5 it may have a good view, but I think its a really poor hole with the pond down the right...just hit 2 or 3 decent straight shots
#5, to me, just begs the player to pull out the driver and swing as hard as possible - it's too inviting to try and hit it a mile from that vantage point on the tee up on top of the hill. You have to know your limitations. Then you have to control your 2nd and 3rd shots or end up wet.
6 is a bit weird as well with the big tree in the middle, I think that one works though. Plays more as a centerline hazard
8 is awful, the trees just really clog that hole...maybe with a bit of pruning it would be better
Agreed, could use a little trimming, but generally a solid design that's a victim of, shall we say it together, conditioning
10 is pretty bad with the ponds up the right side...just far too tight
Yes, too tight. Nice green complex though. And a scary approach.
12 might be better with better conditioning but as is its a poor redan knock-off
Again,clash of opinions. I'll disagree that's it's a poor Redan knockoff.
15 was not that good before the pond, I haven't played it after the pond was added, but that actually might make it better...may add some decision making into the layup
17 also may be better if some trees were pruned, but I can't really see it right now
The trees are what make the hole. Perhaps eliminating a few of the trees at the end of the row, nearer the green would make it more tempting to try and take the over the water approach, but it's the second shot that make this hole anyway. Scariest shot on the course for me. Death left and near death right.
I can see the concept on a lot of the holes and I think Tim Liddy did a really good job with a really poor site and there are some excellent holes... I really like 11, 13, 14. But to me it's one of those courses that probably shouldn't have been built because of the site.
Well, there was a course there before Liddy did one.