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Tom_Doak

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2013, 07:53:22 PM »
This actually seems crazy to me, now that most golf courses in America have lowered their greens fees substantially.  If $100 is your upper limit, there are courses galore out there that give you great bang for the buck, including many, if not most, under $50.  Seems like $50 or $75 ought to be the max, and you could still find more than 100 really good courses out there to play.

He could expand the list to modern/classic, or better yet put up 5-10 per state or even major city.

That would keep him busy for a while.....

Jeff:

I think this list is based on courses Matt has actually played, and GOLF DIGEST was not sending him around to cover very many under-$50 courses.

You are right that there are lots of good candidates, but based on his previous travel agenda, I expect the list to include something from all of the usual advertiser markets, instead of cool $40 courses out in the flyover country.

Jerry Kluger

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2013, 11:28:49 PM »
I was a fan of West Palm Beach GC and thought it was a great value until I played Osprey Point in Boca Raton.

Played Chapel Ridge in Pittsboro, NC for $35 which is a great value.

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2013, 06:32:51 PM »


Jeff:

I think this list is based on courses Matt has actually played, and GOLF DIGEST was not sending him around to cover very many under-$50 courses.

You are right that there are lots of good candidates, but based on his previous travel agenda, I expect the list to include something from all of the usual advertiser markets, instead of cool $40 courses out in the flyover country.

Tom:

Not sure if this is true, as Ginella was soliciting ideas for this list on twitter.  Perhaps he is limiting what gets published to courses he's played, but he did open up the suggestion box to anything/anywhere.

Sven
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Jud_T

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2013, 06:47:22 PM »
He obviously stole the idea from me.. 8)  I still can't believe I haven't played the Warren.  Other obvious additions:  Spring Valley, The Mines, Shepherd's Crook, Lawsonia Links, Harrison Hills, Rustic Canyon and Ravisloe.

Jud, I love ya, but what is with this fixation you and a few other guys have with Spring Valley?  The best part of that place is the bar, IMO.

Well I can't think of a public course on this side of the border on better ground that I consistently enjoy more.  And certainly not one with an all day weekend walking rate of $18.
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Matthew Sander

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2013, 09:55:27 PM »
He obviously stole the idea from me.. 8)  I still can't believe I haven't played the Warren.  Other obvious additions:  Spring Valley, The Mines, Shepherd's Crook, Lawsonia Links, Harrison Hills, Rustic Canyon and Ravisloe.

Jud, I love ya, but what is with this fixation you and a few other guys have with Spring Valley?  The best part of that place is the bar, IMO.

Brings to mind a story from this past fall. Two GCAers and I played in an end of season, hit, giggle, and guzzle event at a course out here in the west burbs. Post round, we were eating and drinking at a large table with some guys from other groups, all strangers. One of the aforementioned GCAers struck up a conversation with a gentlemen at the table. I'd characterize their little exchange as your typical back and forth regarding favorite local courses.

Our GCAer was eschewing mention of the well knowns (Cog, Harborside, etc...) in favor of more esoteric options, including Spring Valley. After our guy used several of his turns to tout the merits of SV, the other gentleman looked upon him with almost protective paternal disappointment and said, "you know, that course isn't rated very highly."

Sean_A

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Re: Matt Ginella's Ultimate Guide to Value Golf in the U.S.
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2013, 03:41:28 AM »
This actually seems crazy to me, now that most golf courses in America have lowered their greens fees substantially.  If $100 is your upper limit, there are courses galore out there that give you great bang for the buck, including many, if not most, under $50.  Seems like $50 or $75 ought to be the max, and you could still find more than 100 really good courses out there to play.

He could expand the list to modern/classic, or better yet put up 5-10 per state or even major city.

That would keep him busy for a while.....

Jeff

For better or worse my threshold is about $100.  Once the fee goes above that I want something very good with no excuses.  Over $50ish I become skittish about the fee and will likely do a bit of research to see if there is a better alternative, but convenience will probably be just as important as anything in most cases unless I know of better alternatives.  Once a fee hits $150ish its very hard to get good value, but still possible if the course is special.  I always say that value begins with quality.  It isn't good value to pay $20 for a dog track when there is a good course nearby for $40 - my time is worth something.

It works in the UK as well.  At £65 (about $100) I am expecting something very good, but this that target price is getting harder and harder to meet.  Although, the one great thing about UK golf is its nearly all on private courses so slow play is usually not a problem especially if one stays away from tourista trail - that is worth a bit of a premium to me.  It seems I am being driven to higher ground to find interesting golf at good prices.    

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