AAC III - Ready, set, go! Open for Submissions (March 15 deadline)

[Ally Mcintosh]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

[Alex Miller]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

I just got a message from one of them saying that he's happy with the site because it will separate the men from the boys... 

So, you just want something drawn right on the topo? Yes

Any requirements for par/yards/sets of tees? No

Anybody else having an issue downloading the full resolution images from the imgur site?  When I try I get a "File Not Found" message.

Mike, I have had the same problems. When I have printed it the map doesnt seem to come out very clear!!

Hmmm... I will try to figure out the problem you guys are having. I've been able to click through the preview to the full-size image and right-click to download or copy. It is not the clearest image, but it sounds like something isn't going right.

[Garland Bayley]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

I just got a message from one of them saying that he's happy with the site because it will separate the men from the boys... 

Or the men from the old men with eyes that don't gather light like the used to.

[Alex Miller]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

I just got a message from one of them saying that he's happy with the site because it will separate the men from the boys... 

Or the men from the old men with eyes that don't gather light like the used to.

I will make a high contrast black and white version tonight. You know, to evoke yester-year! 


I am sorry about that, though. I definitely see what you all are talking about. They show up better on screen.

[Charlie Goerges]

Looks great Alex, now the the work can really begin! I like the site, and it was perfectly ok to change the scale of the contour interval. Best of luck to you and to all the contestants!

[Ally Mcintosh]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

I just got a message from one of them saying that he's happy with the site because it will separate the men from the boys...  

Well there will be many, many more options for routings that work reasonably well… So it will be harder to judge… But It may also be harder for the participants to find that “great” routing hidden within…

I was kind of hoping that you would give a tight site though… Because that way I think you learn how hard it can be to route something with no weak links… And you have to make many more compromising decisions…

All that said – well done… I look forward to seeing the results.

[Alex Miller]

10 feet contours and a thousand acre site.... I pity the judges....

I just got a message from one of them saying that he's happy with the site because it will separate the men from the boys...  

Well there will be many, many more options for routings that work reasonably well… So it will be harder to judge… But It may also be harder for the participants to find that “great” routing hidden within…

I was kind of hoping that you would give a tight site though… Because that way I think you learn how hard it can be to route something with no weak links… And you have to make many more compromising decisions…

All that said – well done… I look forward to seeing the results.

I think there are some requirements in place that will restrict the routings ("sunset golf" should demand some creativity). If I had a more detailed topo (sigh...) then a smaller site would have made more sense, however with what we have this is really about the routings, and I thought judging would actually be easier with a large area in this case.

[Mike Viscusi]

You have the permit to access the aquifer which lies below the sand hills.

Can someone talk more about aquifers and what this would enable a Designer to do?

Thanks,
Mike

[Brett_Morrissy]

Favour #1:
Can someone point me in the direction of the one of the original  threads that provided the software or online means to edit and present the routing and other items please?

What format or tools are everyone else using to detail the topo? Or is it a secret.

Not sure if I am better converting to metric or not...as a first timer, any hints would be appreciated.

Alex, thanks for all your efforts so far.

[Garland Bayley]

Favour #1:
Can someone point me in the direction of the one of the original  threads that provided the software or online means to edit and present the routing and other items please?

What format or tools are everyone else using to detail the topo? Or is it a secret.

Not sure if I am better converting to metric or not...as a first timer, any hints would be appreciated.

Alex, thanks for all your efforts so far.

Print the map. Make copies for draft work. Draw the routing on the printed map(s). Photograph it with a digital camera. Send it in.

Some of the people on this website are very adept at the sort of drawing software that has been used in the past. If you have no experience with such, I would recommend not trying to learn to use them unless you have copious spare time and a high threshold for pain.

[Brett_Morrissy]

Gold! Thanks GJ

[Dieter Jones]

I reckon the large site is harder than a small restricted site. Anytime I've done hypothetical exercises like this before I have worked on smaller sites such as existing courses or areas with an obvious or pre-determined starting point. The almost limitless options mean you have to find a way to tie together parts of the land that look interesting for a course but could be spread out across the whole site.

Maybe it is beacuse when looking for the best solution in a more restricted site I feel more lilely to accept occassional compromises (ie that's as good as you can do given the site constraints). This big area will make it harder for the judges to compare entries but should let the contestants with good skills shine through.

I'll still give it a crack anyway but looking forward to seeing what the finalists come up with.

cheers

[Joe_Tucholski]

You have the permit to access the aquifer which lies below the sand hills.

Can someone talk more about aquifers and what this would enable a Designer to do?

Thanks,
Mike

I don't know for sure but uninformed assumption was this means don't worry about irrigation ponds or a water source.

[Steve Lang]

  Alex,

What is the deadline?

Are you going to mark some more topo lines?


old fart Going Blind,
steve

[Alex Miller]

Alex,

What is the deadline?

Are you going to mark some more topo lines?


old fart Going Blind,
steve

Hi Steve,

Ok, let me know if this is easier to see http://i.imgur.com/nsk7Ck1.jpg (full size here)




I will not be adding any topo lines as I don't have the ability to accurately do so. These lines are at 10ft intervals and the shading should provide a good deal of what's in between. Sorry it's not exact.

I'd like to get an idea sometime next week of how far along everyone is, but probably another 2-3 weeks if possible.

[Josh Tarble]

I thought  I was going pretty good on mine, although I've already put a ton of work into it...probably more than healthy!  But the new version does seem to show the small details a bit better.

I'm also still a bit confused on what we need to be submitting.  Is it a true routing plan as in just lines and dots or can we show the finished layout of the holes?

[Steve Lang]

  Thanks Alex, that's a little better, just would like to see some other topo lines' elevations identified to better think out upslope vs downslope.  the single 3400 ft elevation needs supplementing.

I'd advise you set a deadline.. maybe The Ides of March?  Then relax if needed...

[Alex Miller]

Ok, we'll set the deadline for March 15th.


Josh,

I've been thinking abot what would be best to submit. I think if everyone submits one stick routing and then one zoomed in version with the holes drawn out in more detail. What do you think?

[Josh Tarble]

Alex, That sounds good to me, I'm also assuming yardages and par should be included with both formats?

[Alex Miller]

Alex, That sounds good to me, I'm also assuming yardages and par should be included with both formats?

Yes, please!

[Jeb Bearer]

Thanks Alex, that's a little better, just would like to see some other topo lines' elevations identified to better think out upslope vs downslope.  the single 3400 ft elevation needs supplementing.

Agreed, some of the local extremes that are in the middle of a big plateau or valley are hard to tell whether they are peaks or depressions. That said, the shading on the newest map should prove quite helpful in visualizing the terrain. Thanks Alex!

[Brett_Morrissy]

Alex
has the links for the image and the url in your post #39 gone down - I cannot see the image and the link is not working.
Am I the only one?

[Alex Miller]

Alex
has the links for the image and the url in your post #39 gone down - I cannot see the image and the link is not working.
Am I the only one?

Works for me. I suppose it could be the browser or the website hosting it went down for a little while. PM me if it continues to give you problems.

[Jeb Bearer]

Ok, we'll set the deadline for March 15th.


Josh,

I've been thinking abot what would be best to submit. I think if everyone submits one stick routing and then one zoomed in version with the holes drawn out in more detail. What do you think?

I'm a little confused about what this means, the "zoomed in" part. Is this one image with the routing superimposed over the map, basically the stick routing with mowing lines and hazards shown? Or is it 18 images, a detail plan for each hole? Thanks.

[Jim Colton]

I'm done! I can't wait til Mar 15th to submit my entry.