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Mark Saltzman

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Palma Ceia G&CC is a Ross design completed in 1925.  The tightly routed golf course is played over rather flat terrain making for a very comfortable walk.  Trees do encroach on corridors though the course never feels cramped and there is little risk of playing to adjacent fairways.  Perhaps the most amazing part is the golf course is routed over only 82 acres. 82!

In 2011, Bobby Weed was brought in to complete a renovation (I don't believe it was restorative), focused mainly on drainage and re-grassing greens with TifEagle Bermuda.  The renovation won renovation of the year in 2012 (read more here: http://asgca.org/news/627-palma-ceia-golf-and-country-club-from-asgcas-weed-awarded-renovation-of-the-year-from-golf-inc).

In truth, the golf course did not photograph as well as I felt it played.  In photos the subtlety of the greens, the flawless green to tee transitions, and the classic-looking and cleverly placed bunkers are lost and instead the holes appear repetitive, tree-lined and overly narrow.






A perfect site for the first tee, 20 yards from the golf shop:



An easy bogie / difficult par hole to start the round.  A mid-length par-4 with two effectively placed bunkers to add strategy to this straightaway hole that runs along a boundary on the left.  As is the norm at Palma Ceia, the front of the green is open, but a raised green and perimeter contouring will deflect off-line shots.




After the 1st, the golfer turns 180 degrees to play the 330 yard par-4 second.  Once again, a single fairway bunker turns a straightaway hole into one with strategy as approaching from there allows the golfer to play into the slope of this tilted green.




The third hole is a mid-length par-5 with trees clearly intruding on lines of play.  A dull lay-up is made up for by an interesting green -- narrow and falling off on both sides -- but the hole did not photograph well.

The 4th is fun little par-3 tucked into the corner of the property.  The narrow green at the 3rd is turned 45 degrees at the 4th making for a very ellusive target.






The 5th brings us to our first dog-leg hole, another short-ish par-4.  Like the 3rd, the majority of the interest is at the green, which has its high point in its centre and falls off both front and back.




The golf course is not long, playing a little over 6,200 yards to a par of 70, but there are still many holes with some serious teeth.  The first of those is at the 6th, which plays over 400 yards into the wind, and which requires a carry of some 230 yards if one wants to have a clear look at the flag.  Approaching this green, with its built-up bunker lips and gathering slopes is a tall task with a long club.




The 7th is an over-treed par-4 that moves right.  A (presumably) added tee allows the hole to play well over 400 yards and the very large green is welcome after the precision demanded on each of the first six approaches.




The 8th and 9th play in the same direction and into the wind. The 8th is a well-bunkered if simple par-3, with a nifty tie-in to the 9th tee.






The 9th is the most difficult hole on the front-nine, a par-4 playing 440 yards.  Playing near the lone fairway bunker means the golfer need not play over a bunker 20 yards short-left of the green, though the fairway bunker was out-of-reach for this golfer on the day he played.  




The right-ward tilt of the land short of the green means that running approaches risk funneling to a low-spot short-right of the green, or worse, into the greenside bunker.

« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 01:07:52 PM by Mark Saltzman »

Mike Feeney

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Appreciate the pictures and commentary...especially of the layout.  How many courses have you played where real estate is tight and & the result is 15 or 16 good holes spoiled by a couple of funky "throwaway" holes?   Ross a genius in many ways but, his knack for great routings really shines when he has a small footprint (82 acres?  My gawd, I thought Wannamoisett at 100 was a feat).  I don't pretend to know how he did it (use of angles and hole shaping?) but Palma Ceia looks like it delivers tee & green proximity and a walk-in-the-park-lets-play-another-loop feeling that is so rare...and it doesn't look cramped and/or require your to hit a bunch of T shots w/your hybrid.

John Shimp

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Mark,
What is the Bendelow connection to Palma Ceia?  I have heard him mentioned as a gca there too.
Thanks for the pictures.  As usual, very nice review.

Sven Nilsen

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John:

Bendelow laid out the course depicted in the routing map in 1916.  Ross came in 1923 to rework all 18 holes.

Ross made a few tweaks to the routing, but in general the playing corridors remain as laid out by Bendelow.

Sven
"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Mark Saltzman

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John, if you look at the routing map posted, it is Bendelow's.  I was told Bendelow staked tees and greens but the course was built by Ross in 1923.  

Edit: What Sven said.

Mitch Hantman

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Mark,

You seem to be on a tour of Florida!  What's next on your itinerary?

Mark Saltzman

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The 10th is a really fantastic short par-4, or at least it could be with a bit of tree removal.  A real decision must be made from the tee, whether to hit enough club to challenge the fairway bunkers on the right, or whether to lay-back to the left.




Playing left leaves a very awkward approach over bunkers to a mostly blind and angled putting surface that is very shallow.  Playing right leaves a simple pitch and a clear birdie opportunity.




The putting surface as seen from short-right falls off long and right making the approach from the left that much more difficult.




The 11th and 12th are parallel par-4s, neither of which is overly interesting, though the long approach to the 12th with its centre bunker and gathering contours will give some players trouble.




The mid-length par-3 13th offers a kidney-shaped green and playing into a fierce wind on the day I played it, required a shot of some 225 yards to reach the back pin.




A trio of back-and-forth par-4s from 14-16.  The 15th is again constrained by trees, mandating a lay-up from the tee unless the golfer can play a draw on command.




The approach to the 15th is played over water to a very small green that falls off long and left.




Another good short par-4 at the 16th where a series of staggered fairway bunkers require decision-making from the tee.




The 17th is an excellent golf hole.  A pair of bunkers extend from the left to block the kicker and fairway area short of the green.  I don't know that I would call these bunkers top-shot bunkers, but they are a phenomenal use of forced perspective and something Ross has used on many of his long par-3s (http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php?topic=50854.0).




Impossible to know from the tee, but the bunkers end some 30-yards short of the putting surface and shots can be played short of the green to use this kicker.




This look from over the green shows the straight-line bunker edging and the way the green runs up and into the bunkers.  This is not something I'm used to seeing from Ross and gives a strong MacRaynor feel.




The 18th is a very short par-5, playing only a little over 450 yards.  A centreline bunker 270 yards from the back-tee has been added, shrinking the already narrow target.    Between the OB left and this centreline bunker, long hitters must give real consideration to hitting less than driver from the 18th tee.




BCowan

Mark,

   This is a great photo tour I stumbled across the other day.  The greens do look interesting.  Looks like a gem and it was nice seeing walkers with trollies in Florida .  Can u tell me more about the place? 

SBendelow

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Mark,

Are you suggesting that the Palma Ceia golf course did not exist before 1923?

Stuart Bendelow