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Ran Morrissett

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GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« on: January 04, 2013, 01:28:06 PM »
For GolfClubAtlas.com, 2012 is in the books and our fourteenth year concludes with every meaningful measurement trending up (page views, interesting emails, behind the scene dialogues, gatherings, new friendships, emails, # of donations, the list goes on). So what, you say? 2012 is in the rear view mirror - how does 2013 shape up?

Sadly, some will not be a part of this year’s journey as several great friends passed away. Jim Goby who was a stalwart of our UK gatherings, Ralph Livingston, the king of hickory golf, and Tom MacWood, who authored many superlative In My Opinion pieces are gone. Some losses to a web site can be temporary but these are permanent and leave a gigantic void. I reflect back to a gathering of a motley group of golfers at Doak’s Lost Dunes. They included Ted ’The Braying Donkey’ Sturges, Rick ‘Let’s Have One More’ Holland, Ralph, Tom, and One of Golf’s Most Beloved Figures. Ted, Rick and I tapped out of the discussions in the cottage around 2am. I got up at ~5am and sure enough, Ralph and Tom were still going at it. Tom was feeding off Ralph’s encyclopedic knowledge of equipment/maintenance practices and using that to formulate hypotheses on the evolution of architecture. Ralph and Tom freely shared their expertise with all of us but now those inspirational voices are silent. As a reminder of life’s fragility, I learned that my friend Mike Miller suffered a heart attack last week. After ten days in the hospital, he returns home today. Ever the trooper, Mike hopes to be back in front of a canvas within 4 to 5 weeks. Good tidings may be sent his way via the contact info in his Art & Architecture section.

So where does a more somber GolfClubAtlas.com head? As always, that answer depends on YOU. It lies in the quality of the discourse among the Discussion Group participants. It is also found in the In My Opinion pieces, Feature Interviews and Course Profiles that get added each year. With the indispensible help of Joe Andriole and Chris Buie, the Courses by Country profiles continue to mount and become less bad. Personally, I thought that the Feature Interviews were outstanding this year as they offered more variety than ever. From Tom Paul’s views on how society and golf are intertwined to Melvyn Morrow’s impassioned, take-no-prisoners view of the game the reader was entertained like never before. Joel Stewart helps immensely with the Feature Interviews and is presently arranging one with Amy Alcott.

This annual review does lead to a couple of questions: Why did the number of In My Opinion pieces decline this year? True, we declined several for quality reasons but still, the number of In My Opinion pieces (which also includes My Home Course entries) dwindled. Why is that? Any feedback would be most welcome. Nobody enjoys a Sean Arble monster course break down more than I; surely, there are others out there with a similar passion for analysis?

Is it time to revisit the idea of a monthly book review? There certainly exist 20-50 books on golf architecture that are without question worthy of study/debate. Most fall in the 150 to 300 page range. Should we discuss some of these cornerstone books in detail? Perhaps one opus is selected monthly, divided in thirds with each third discussed as a sticky topic for 10 days. By month’s end, we would all be enriched whether it be from gleaning new insight into a previous read or an eye-opening introduction to one of these literary gems. Perhaps a different person could chair each month long review? After a year, we would add a ninth section to the site entitled Architecture Book Discussions and compile threads beneath the titles of the twelve books discussed? It’s not very hi-tech but there is potential to tap into the collective wisdom of this forum and create both scholarly analysis and erudite discussion.

With the addition of many new individuals to our roster, the Discussion Group is back to nearly 1,500 register posters. Is that number too high, too low or just about right? The answer is ... there is no answer! It all depends on the quality of the posts. More so than photos, what distinguishes GolfClubAtlas.com is the writing. The forum did well last year in that regard. The amount of unwarranted rancor was reduced and there were many well articulated discussions/disagreements. Regardless of Churchill’s description of Pat Mucci - ‘A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject’  8) - and despite the obvious passion that boils over from time to time, the GolfClubAtlas.com Discussion Group consistently offers superior dialogue relative to any sport web site with which I am familiar. Disagree as we must but do so in a considerate manner. We lost a few followers along the way because the low points in the Discussion Group were, well, too low for their liking. Perhaps this site is only as good as its weakest link and if so, it got appreciably better this year as we steered clear of a fight club mentality. I have seen the movie Lawless three times and no one wins in a brass knuckle fight with Forrest Bondurant. We must communicate effectively; be thoughtful, be literate and be appropriate. There is no merit, no knowledge or lasting entertainment in snide, cruel commentary.

Traveling to golf courses has never been easier and I doubt that there is a single noteworthy course in the world that someone reading this post hasn’t seen. To wit, GolfClubAtlas.com’s world international headquarters received this email: ‘...visited two courses in Nepal on our side trip, and I can report that one of them is a must play ... Himalayan Golf Club, Pokhara, Nepal. You should try to get there sometime in your life.’ That’s amazing and this web site thrives on the collective experience of its membership. When people share their exploits in well considered prose, we all win.

Still, what can we change? Indeed, what SHOULD we change? I did just buy a new camera yesterday that has video and hope to start tinkering with video as an add-on to some Feature Interviews. Ben and I are both sensitive to change and committed to keeping GolfClubAtlas.com fresh, yet neither of us believe that change for change's sake is the best path. The question is: Does it make it better? Also, there is something to be said for that which isn’t modified every time you turn around (just ask the original members of The Medalist Club  ;)). Our society - including golf - is under constant alteration. There is a special appeal found in those things that remain constant. Like the Old Course ... no wait, I take that back! :P Could GolfClubAtlas.com be better? Sure. Is it going to change? Absolutely, but not abruptly or at any ill-considered tempo. Its eight sections have served us well so far.

For confirmation, we can look at the other common media outlets, which in general, are not particularly close to getting it right. Note Golf Digest’s latest US Top 100 rankings where superior work at places like LA North, Quaker Ridge and Pinehurst No. 2 is dismissed and unwalkable new courses are held in greater admiration. Commercial outlets are obligated to come up with new material every month, week, day, hour. That is a formula that promotes an inferior vision of the game. Golf itself is a bit askew - or it is not framed as well as it should be. Competition reporting and instructional guides are not the essence of the game and don’t reflect its greater purpose. Despite my bullying skills for strokes on the first tee to compensate for a unique but well practiced inside snatch takeaway :-[, I know golf to be much more than winning or finding the next swing fix. The highest purpose of the game is to promote health and well being through being outdoors with friends (and dogs if you are lucky enough to be in England). It's good to have tournaments and recognize expertise but are the primary goals of the game really about beating the other fellow or getting more distance? Of course not!

Here is a 19th Century quote from the Pinehurst Outlook that Chris found:

There is good reason for its popularity with those who value a clear head, a sound digestion and well tempered muscles, as all right Americans should. For the game requires some strength, but more skill. It keeps you moving over broad spaces out of doors, instead of trotting up and down or skipping about one little spot as in tennis or croquet. You may walk as briskly as you please, but you need not tear your vital organs from their moorings with violent running as in baseball. To stay out of doors all that one possibly can is the straightest road to rest and health in the pine woods region. And during the winter months the weather is not so warm but that some kind of exercise is necessary in order to be perfectly comfortable. Croquet and tennis are good, but somewhat confined in their scope, as has already been said. Walking is the best of exercise, but the majority of people do not love walking just for its own sake. They are reluctant to take walks, even for the sake of the good they will get from them. In the colder weather the botanist and the bird student cannot well pursue their favorite researches, and even in such a company of choice spirits as assemble at Pinehurst each season.What shall the ordinary man or woman do, who just wants to rest the head, give all the muscles reasonable exercise, and inflate the lungs with most vital air while they are about it? The answer is easy they must become golfers.

Pity such writing doesn’t drive page views as it means we are only likely to find such prose on non-commercial sites like ours. Being commercial free is a privileged rarity and we all owe a tip of our collective hats to those listed in the Contribution Section. Thanks to their generosity despite the anemic economy, the board of GolfClubAtlas.com has decided to run commercial free for 2013. Seventy-five people have already contributed toward 2013 and we take that as a show of appreciation for the absence of any mind-numbing pop-ups.

Season’s Greetings from the North Carolina GolfClubAtlas.com staff below:


Only joking. You’ll have to ask my agent how I got roped into this mock Downton Abbey pose for the local Pine Straw magazine.

One thing is for sure: the beast that is GolfClubAtlas.com never sleeps and is always on the prowl. Joe often reminds me of E.B. White’s sentiment: "I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan.” I say, we needn’t pick one path or the other! After a moment of silence for those no longer with us, GolfClubAtlas.com will move forward and with your support endeavor to do both simultaneously and extraordinarily well. The game of golf needs friends now like never before and we will be there for it.

Thanks for all the kind notes and well wishes and let’s make 2013 count!

Best,

Ran & Ben

Eric Smith

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 01:43:50 PM »
Thanks, Ran and Ben and all who make this website so enjoyable.

To making it count!

Best wishes in 2013,

Eric

PCCraig

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 02:10:03 PM »
Thanks Ran.
H.P.S.

Doug Wright

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 02:56:20 PM »
Thanks Ran and Ben, here's to a great 2013.

PS Check's in the mail Paypal style...  ;)
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Colin Macqueen

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 04:03:16 PM »
Ran,

Many thanks for yet another wonderful year delivered, promotionally free, by Golf Club Atlas.
As others attest there is nothing equivalent to it on the internet so thanks for this. A champion forum.

Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 05:46:16 PM »
Thank you Ran & Ben
I do miss the ability to easily view an individuals past posts - it helped me understand this person that I no longer know.
I wish you would return that feature.
I also could care less is someone wants to see how much time I spend in the Treehouse.
Peace & Cheers

P.S.
Get well Mike!
« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 05:51:42 PM by Mike Nuzzo »
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Ash Towe

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 05:52:56 PM »
Thanks Ran and Ben for this site.  It has been a significant part of my golfing life, particularly when I had an extended period of time away from the game.  I suspect this happens to many of us when we are sick or injured.

Good luck for 2013.

Gib_Papazian

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 05:56:30 PM »
Ran,

I returned from my odyssey in the wilderness to find some familiar faces either banished from the Treehouse, or who climbed down the ladder in a huff, never to return. While the level of discourse has remained high, the social texture of the Men's Grill has lost some personality. No offense to the newer badge holders, but I miss the old gang who haunted the mansion. It is good to have a shot of absinthe on the side to keep things interesting.

Since "Golf's Most Beloved Figure" is a Benevolent Lord King Monarch and Dictator, might I gently suggest (we had brief conversation over dinner a couple weeks ago) we reinstate an eccentric or two? Anthony Gray and I are obviously close friends and his nutmeg added a unique flavor to this concoction.

The Emperor - who I dearly love - won't give me a straight answer why he no longer bludgeons misguided skulls on GCA with his scepter of truth. Max's Lounge needs an embassy here - with diplomatic immunity.   

Beyond posters thrown from the window, does anybody know why Tom Paul abandoned ship? It is troubling that such a unique perspective is gone. As GCAtlas marches forward, are we exiling the very voices that brought us to this point? I'm not suggesting we seek out Johnny Thunders, but there are too many faces in the bar occupying seats that once belonged to more flamboyant characters.

My suggestion would be to reach out and reach back; as TE Paul used to write: "There is plenty of room in the tent."

Let's make 2013 a year of reconciliation - except no more threads about Merion. Please.

        

    
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Bruce Wellmon

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 06:10:25 PM »
I am proud to be a member. Thanks to all.

Ulrich Mayring

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 06:10:59 PM »
Perhaps it can be made such that a contributor can opt-in to others being able to see his profile.

Ulrich
Golf Course Exposé (300+ courses reviewed), Golf CV (how I keep track of 'em)

Steve_Lovett

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 09:32:14 PM »
Ran & Ben:

A couple of thoughts.

First, thank you for your great work on this website. Although I don't participate as much as some, I learn something new most every time I lurk about and suspect that my appreciation for the game has increased and my likes/dislikes are more well-formed as a result of what I've learned. Hopefully in 2013 I can participate more and perhaps meet more folks in person.

Second, although several old faces have left the site I would hardly suggest that GolfClubAtlas is a somber place - and I'd bet that those who are gone would want to see the sprit of discussion and enthusiasm of the site continue with the same energy that they gave to it.

Third, I think the OT stuff is valuable as it gives personal context to the on-topic discussions. Where we all come from shapes how we look at the world (and golf courses), and a reasonable balance of constructive off-topic conversations are worthwhile. Some of the stories are heartwarming (dogs) and others are/have been inspirational (Tiger B's optimism, hope, and positive spirit in his fight with cancer, amongst many).

Fourth, I like the ideas of incorporating video. It provides a new dimension to understand golf courses that many of us may or may not visit. I also like the idea of an on-line book club, of sorts.

Fifth, and finally, many more people are posting photos - and I think that's great. I consider myself well-traveled and have played many great golf courses, but there remain many, many golf courses that I haven't seen that are considered the best in the world. Thanks to the contributions of a lot of people I have a better understanding of them and the unique features that make them great - and hopefully I will get to more of them in person in the near future.

Thanks, again. And best wishes to all for a safe and happy 2013.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 10:08:47 PM »
"Ditto. I'd also very much like the ability to delete posts. We often say things in the heat of the moment that we regret. A post with three dots isn't ideal is it? I'd also back any ability to recall any post that quoted any aforementioned regrettable post. All in the name of avoiding  inflammatory encoiunters that would lower the tone of the site."

Brian, you can...you click "Modify" and then delete it. If you fired it off in the heat of the moment, that is that and you live with it. For example, in this particular thread, I made a comment about Steve Lapper that, had it been made in his presence, would have conveyed a clinking of glasses, a smile, a punch to the shoulder, etc. It would have been perfectly understood.

Someone else, however, mentioned that it could be taken the wrong way. I reread it, realized that, and added my NOTE. I could have done an entire delete, but chose not to.

Gib, I think that having the absinthe on the side leads some to post precisely what Brian mentions as a minor threat to decorum and geniality. I do miss the wordsmiths and the sages, and I am glad that you have returned to enhance my idiolect. I would love to have the newer badge holders take more chances with thread start-ups, just as I enjoy when folks give me a link to a previous thread when I inquire "Hey, has anyone heard of a course called Merion?"

We are now the first generation out of the garden of Eden. I noticed one donor that has given 30 times...wowzers! We are treading uncharted territory, and I cannot imagine a better group of guys with which to progress.
Coming in 2024
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~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Nigel Islam

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 10:33:33 PM »
Thanks for letting me a part of this. I've learned so much from this website.

Joel_Stewart

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 11:02:15 PM »


For confirmation, we can look at the other common media outlets, which in general, are not particularly close to getting it right. Note Golf Digest’s latest US Top 100 rankings where superior work at places like LA North, Quaker Ridge and Pinehurst No. 2 is dismissed and unwalkable new courses are held in greater admiration.

I would not call those courses "dismissed". For the record, LA North moved up 6 spots to #41.   Quaker Ridge which had fallen off the list is now back on at #69.  I'll grant you Pinehurst is a mystery and is absurdly under rated but they are not panelist friendly and may not have received that many votes???


Sean_A

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 03:16:26 AM »
Cheers Ran & Ben.  It can't be easy to do what you do on a voluntary basis so the effort is appreciated. 

I like the idea of video.  How bout using it for profiling more courses which don't make the lists?  I understand the appeal of knocking off big guns, but there is also strong pull (on my part anyway) to get your take on more of the lesser lights in golf. 

Happy New Year and keep yer head down.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Mike Sweeney

Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 06:06:06 AM »

I like the idea of video.  How bout using it for profiling more courses which don't make the lists?  I understand the appeal of knocking off big guns, but there is also strong pull (on my part anyway) to get your take on more of the lesser lights in golf.  


Just trying to be realistic, video done well is very complicated and expensive. This discussion group is not set up to "embed" video and to set up a common site at YouTube is impractical as it would require a shared password for people to upload content and spammers and hackers always find this stuff.

Video can probably be embedded on the web pages of Ran's review or others "In My Opinion" pieces but again, editing video is time consuming to do it well. The danger is you end up with goofy user generated content that is really not that good. Ran's writing is very good because he is a good writer and photography technology has come a long way as evidenced by this site.

The best solution for now is people that want to contribute via video, they can really only provide links in the discussion group to their videos on their personal channels same as people contribute pictures from their own picture sites. Pictures can be embedded here on the discussion group, video can't.

Ran would have to check with his software provider to see if they can provide the ability to embed video into the discussion group.

Jim Colton did a nice job with this picture montage of Ballyneal in this video presentation, but it is not true video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGzWLR5T18

No golf video deserves to be watched more than this video of Ben Cox by Jim, but when you don't have the right quality, it only gets 126 views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwpdqEnYnjY

Trust me, this took Jim lots of time to create these.

Here is someone that used GoPro at Ballyneal and nobody is going to sit through 10 minutes of this without significant editing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0d3sPKHyGM



« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 06:21:12 AM by Mike Sweeney »

Scott Warren

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 06:35:49 AM »
Ran,

Another great year behind us. The DG is better for the judicious changes you've made to the membership.

I agree that with a quality product, it's smart to be open to but wary of change. That being so, before video is introduced or any other advances are explored there are basic faults with the DG that should be addressed: some (many?) not being able to quote posts, some users not being able to preview posts, the limited window width that restricts pics to 800 pixels...

I agree with others that viewing user profiles would be nice, but I understand the reasons why you might have elected to disable that feature.

Re: the Feature Interviews, definitely still a highlight of the site, though funnily enough I'd have cited Melvyn's (and to a lesser extent Tom Paul's) as an exception to that rule.

IMO, the insight of so many of the interviews that reside in that section of the site sits uncomfortably beside Melvyn being Melvyn (did he ever get around to visiting Askernish? ;D).

Have a good 2013, and congratulations again to you and Ben on the successful debut of Cabot Links.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 06:46:30 AM by Scott Warren »

Robert Emmons

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2013, 08:47:14 AM »
Thanks for everything...RHE

Jud_T

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2013, 09:28:11 AM »
Ran,

Thanks yet again.  Contribution in.  I encourage everyone to contribute.  Even though it's been another tough economic year for many of us, this site is pretty damn high on the Sean Arble value scale.  Love the Book review idea.  Would be a great reference for those of us who don't necessarily want to read everything ever written on the subject.  A Confidential Book Guide if you will.  I'd like to renew my annual plea for a GCA Iphone app.  Maybe some talented programmers hereabouts would be willing to lend their time to that effort.  Happy New Year to all.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 09:50:45 AM by Jud Tigerman »
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Ronald Montesano

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2013, 09:32:54 AM »
Mike Sweeney is correct. Raw video is brutal if too extensive.

A communal YouTube account is fraught with peril.

Baby steps. I like that Ran is looking at new frontiers. I purchased a USB microphone for the specific purpose of a once-monthly podcast for one of my golf web columns. Who knows where it will go? or, Who knows where it will go!
Coming in 2024
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~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

David Harshbarger

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2013, 09:39:02 AM »
The trend on video is to have more, and low production values equate to authenticity.

Attitudes towards video fall along generational lines, they say.  The youth <30 see a triangle on a picture and "press play".  Gen Xers like me, and older, eschew video for photos and the written word.

With the ubiquity of "video capture devices" and simple editing, making video available as an embeddable content form is consistent with the wave of the future.

No need for a communal YouTube account, just like no need for a communal Flickr account.  Just need a [*video] tag.
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The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

Adam Clayman

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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2013, 09:45:04 AM »
Damit Ran, Who was the project manager on that photo?

Your pose should've been mimicking that statue in the background.

And for crying out loud, where are the children?

J/K

Nice report. Great photo

HNY.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Gib_Papazian

Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2013, 12:54:46 PM »
Here is what I think and take it for what you will. This website has hardly become "somber," just professorial and overly dry - too often without a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down. Levity is the helium that gives this subject buoyancy - just as craic is as much a foundation of an Irish Pub as Guinness.  

One main difference from the Golden Age of GCAtlas and now - here I go again, the squawk on the corner bar stool muttering into his beer about the good old days - is that even when a discussion would get completely out of hand, the Treehouse was intimate enough that (a) nobody took it too seriously and (b) even if they did, nobody was one degree of separation from anybody else.

I used to spend a lot of time on the phone, invariably for chit chat, bemused squabble, gossip or to plan the next rendezvous. The majority of the Treehouse resided in America and Canada, so most were only separated by three time zones. I was sad when Brains Goodale fled back to Scotland (with a tinge of jealousy) because our game of ping pong was separated by nine hours.

Of course we had a large offshore contingent (Ran is an honorary Aussie), but the string between our tin cans did not seem quite as long as today. It is a bit like trying to talk to Dave Bowman orbiting Jupiter aboard Discovery. I propel a post into cyberspace and by the time it reaches its destination, the return volley is long past my attention span. I've got the same issue with the export side of my company (yes, I do something of actual value aside from write and make silly movies); sending a Snark-O-Gram to somebody asleep is not terribly satisfying.

It may be my imagination, but Ran seems to have granted an inordinate amount of immigration visas to Australian refugees. It used to be that in order to secure passage into a new nation, it was necessary to demonstrate an expertise in short supply in the host country. Unless Anthony Butler has a skill aside from sodomizing elderly kangaroos (they are easier to catch), he's like the turtle on the fence post. If nobody has heard the rest of the joke, look it up.

No offence, really. (note the British spelling to appear more erudite)

However, through good luck or planning - and I seem to get an inordinate amount of jocular PM's and emails from Down Under - the GCA ratio of Jack Newtons vs. Bruce Cramptons is about 50:2, which is actually better than the American average of Bubba Watsons vs. Scott Hochs.

I'd still love to hit the wayback machine and bring some of the real beauties back in the fold. I've never laughed so hard in my life as when Naccarato posted his "Damian 666 Pascuzzo" thread. Yeah, it might have crossed the line a little bit, but every film festival needs an occasional John Waters movie to loosen everybody's tie. Know what I mean?

As for video: Brother Sweeney is 192% correct. The one exception I'd make is to post video interviews with a static camera. Unless you REALLY know what you're doing - and there might be a half dozen on the site that do - the difference between motion picture/video and still photography is from here to the moon. Not to say one is greater or harder than another (I do both and believe me, still photography is an art unto itself), but even a rank amateur can catch a decent shot with a good camera. Once we start with motion, sound sync and exposure changes from shot to shot - unless you're versed - obtaining decent quality is difficult.

A series of thoughtful, well-framed stills strung together with narration is fairly simple, but showing off a golf course in the correct light - ESPECIALLY A LINKS COURSE - in a trick requiring a lot of experience. 75% of the crap posted on the internet is just that, so my vote would be that any video/motion presentation posted on the website should have to be reviewed first.

All this stated, climbing back up the ladder has bolstered my morose outlook - and even taking the popularity of Gangnam Style into consideration, this website has pushed my ledger past the tipping point into the realm of actual optimism. Time Magazine's choice of "Man of the Year" nearly put me back in the asylum, but listening to all the links at the end of thread set me back on the tenuous road to sanity.    
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Ronald Montesano

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 01:19:30 PM »
Words That All Should Make An Effort To Incorporate Into A Post At Least Once In 2013 (From the GP course on Self-Expression)

buoyancy
craic
squawk 
sodomizing (this one is risky)
erudite
jocular
morose
ledger
tenuous
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

George_Bahto

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Re: GolfClubAtlas.com, version 2013
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 01:44:44 PM »
Ran and Ben - continuing great work - thank you both so much.

We have a site that is incomparable, a place to visit with friends nightly - more or less.

Gib, old buddy - nice to have you back posting - we need your perspective and humor.

About the “team” picture posted, Ran:

......    at first glance I thought the majordomo (right center) was Charles Krauthammer  - 
If a player insists on playing his maximum power on his tee-shot, it is not the architect's intention to allow him an overly wide target to hit to but rather should be allowed this privilege of maximum power except under conditions of exceptional skill.
   Wethered & Simpson