[Mark McKeever]

Why did these three heavyweights not really do much in the Philadephia area at all?  Am I missing something?   

Mark

[Joe Bausch]

Why did these three heavyweights not really do much in the Philadephia area at all? 

Because Tom Paul said 'no'?

[Tom_Doak]

They signed an exclusive contract with Merion not to do any more work in the region. 

[Sven Nilsen]

Mark:

Having lived in both towns (NYC and Philly), there's more credence to the theory that the Philadelphians wanted to hire their own than the New Yorkers not wanting to venture Southwest.  There's a tremendous amount of little brother syndrome that flows from the shores of the Delaware River.  And I say this as an Eagles fan.

Sven

[Ed Brzezowski]

They signed an exclusive contract with Merion not to do any more work in the region. 

OK what's the over / under on pages regarding this topic??

One wiff of Merion is worth two pages.

[Tom_Doak]

They signed an exclusive contract with Merion not to do any more work in the region. 

OK what's the over / under on pages regarding this topic??

One wiff of Merion is worth two pages.

HOPEFULLY all of those fellows know that I am just making light of their past arguments.

If not, I apologize in advance for stirring up the hornet's nest.  But you would think that at some point they would let things lie.

[JMEvensky]

HOPEFULLY all of those fellows know that I am just making light of their past arguments.

If not, I apologize in advance for stirring up the hornet's nest.  But you would think that at some point they would let things lie.

What color is the sky in your parallel universe?

[Mark McKeever]

Thanks for clearing that up Tom.  It's very interesting to see that those guys didnt venture past Forsgate.


Mark

[Mike Sweeney]

Thanks for clearing that up Tom.  It's very interesting to see that those guys didnt venture past Forsgate.

Mark

Mark,

Just a reminder that Raynor did Elkridge Club in Baltimore and MacRaynor did the 9 hole Gibson Island:

http://gibsonislandclub.clubhouseonline-e3.com/Club/Golf.aspx

[Mark McKeever]

Thanks for the heads up on the Baltimore area Mike.  I never heard of Gibson Island, but it looks pretty neat!  Does anyone have pictures of it??

Mark

[Steve_ Shaffer]

Mark,

Take a trip to Pittsburgh:

http://www.foxchapelgolfclub.org/Guest-Golf.aspx

I think "The Philadelphia School" conspired to persuade clubs not to hire MacRaynorBanks in violation of the  Anti-Trust laws.

[Mark McKeever]

Steve,

Fox Chapel is up there on my list.  I need to see that one for sure!

Mark

[Travis Dewire]

Mark,

just a guess but i think they were a little more connected in ny than pa

[Tom_Doak]

Raynor worked in lots of cities, just never around Philadelphia.  Or Boston, either, come to think of it.

[Travis Dewire]

Tom but why!!!

[Travis Dewire]

And how did he make his way up to Newport to do Wanumetonomy? Yes i know tech in Middletown, but even today there are many cross memberships between wanu and ncc

[Travis Dewire]

What industrial wealth rose out of Boston, and/or PA?

Compared to NY, Pittsburgh, St. Louis and Ohio.....

[Steve_ Shaffer]

Industrial wealth in Phila or PA? How about railroads & coal, for starters?

[Travis Dewire]

Industrial wealth in PA < NY

[Jim Sherma]

Industrial wealth in PA < NY

Maybe in the aggregate. The Pennsylvania Railroad was a massive wealth generator(largest capitalized corporation at one time I believe), and institutions like UPENN certainly did not suffer in comparison.

[Steve_ Shaffer]

I forgot steel and agriculture in PA

Of course, nothing is greater than NY. It's the $ capital of the world.

What's the purpose of this comparison? Wealth is wealth and there was enough of it to go around in the "Golden Age" for courses to be built all across the country.

[Sven Nilsen]

Raynor worked in lots of cities, just never around Philadelphia.  Or Boston, either, come to think of it.

Dedham?

[Bill Shotzbarger]

I think the Philadelphia School oligopoly had a lot to do with it.  But the question becomes much deeper when you realize that non-Philly School guys such as Ross, Perry Maxwell, and Willie Park Jr. were able to get some work in the region.

[Sven Nilsen]

Industrial wealth in PA < NY

Are you sure about that?  I think you might want to read up on why Philadelphia was known as the "Workshop of the World."  New York may have been a wealthier city (it was the center of trade and commerce), but Philadelphia was the center of this country's industrial activity for a long time.  

http://www.workshopoftheworld.com/overview/overview.html

[Kyle Harris]

Industrial wealth in PA < NY

From 1820 until about 1910...

Heck no.

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