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mike_malone

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Touring Rolling Green yesterday and learning about how Flynn "faked nature" in his green construction. Jim and Charlie carried on a high level conversation about the challenges of changing push up greens to deal with today's green speeds.

  I think I'll keep my day job!
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Bill_McBride

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Did you ask Mr. Paul why he left again?

mike_malone

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 Bill,
 I just assumed his psychiatrist told him to stop posting here to preseve his sanity.
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Mike Policano

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Mike,

What type of grass do you have on your greens?  I think I remember it being bent.

Sean Remington (SBR)

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  That sounds like a really informative afternoon.  I would have really enjoyed tagging along myself so I could take notes.  I very much want to understand better what makes Flynn's greens good and what he tried to accomplish over 18 holes.

Ian Andrew

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« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 02:43:11 PM by Ian Andrew »
With every golf development bubble, the end was unexpected and brutal....

Brian Colbert

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I got the chance to spend some time with Tom Paul at Rolling Green while he was officiating the PA Amateur this year. If I could just acquire 1/100th of the knowledge he has about GCA I would be thrilled.

mike_malone

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 Tom was listening mostly as Charlie, the practioner, engaged with Jim, the outside objective observor, discussed the issues associated with trying to change the internals of pushup greens. Amateur greenkeepers think it is all so simple to just change a slope here or there.
 Since the classic guys like Flynn were mostly designing greens for surface drainage changing the slopes without dealing with the drainage is a silly endeavor.
 Jim simply said "lower the green speeds". This idea of course is too simple and rational to be adopted by a bunch of crazed golfers at a golf club!


I  recall our conversation at our #13 green where Jim pointed out how you need to start from the back of the green if you want to think about the front ( this is when I started to feel good about my day job!). They also discussed the impact of topdressing over decades and the difference between different grasses. There was an interesting back and forth about  how the firmness of greens affects the speed and some speaker at a green super meeting suggesting that firmer can mean slower. Don't ask me to explain that.

Mostly I learned that with all things you need to have a passion about your craft if you have any chance to succeed. Both Charlie and Jim have that passion along with a respect for history.
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SL_Solow

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Is the club considering changes and has Jim been retained?

David_Elvins

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Touring Rolling Green yesterday and learning about how Flynn "faked nature" in his green construction.

So flattening out a platform in the side of a hill is faking nature now?  :D ;)
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mike_malone

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 Jim was viewing some Philly courses . He had been to Manufacturers and a local muni in Ardmore .
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Kyle Harris

Jim was viewing some Philly courses . He had been to Manufacturers and a local muni in Ardmore .

I'm glad he saw Paxon Hollow.

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