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Ronald Montesano

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2012, 09:41:34 AM »
Canada also has the longest-standing (oldest) course in North America, the lovely 9-hole track at Niagara On The Lake (north of Niagara Falls).
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Bill_McBride

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2012, 01:42:30 PM »
Did I mention how much I enjoyed Victoria Golf Club?   Several holes right down on the water, unlike Pebble and Bandon where the holes are atop high cliffs. 

Mark Saltzman

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2012, 02:11:42 PM »
Bill, it's been a whole bunch of years since I've been to Victoria, but I remember Victoria GC hitting higher highs but Royal Colwood being laid-out over the more interesting land, providing for an overall better, more consistent golf course.  I presume you disagree? (and please don't ask me for specifics because I can't provide them!).

Jeff_Mingay

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2012, 04:39:12 PM »
The really cool thing about Victoria and Colwood is that they are so different. Victoria is significantly shorter and quirkier. Colwood, for the most part, is right there in front of you by comparison - it's more of a 'standard' golf course, if that makes any sense.

I think because of some of the quirk (which some golfers don't like), Victoria features more memorable holes than Colwood - you just don't find holes like Victoria's 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th (back to back par 3s), and 14th (the second in Victoria's other set of consecutive one-shot holes) anywhere else in Canada. And, it's almost always windy at Victoria. So, I think there's a greater variety of shots to be played there as a result. There are some good (and unbelievably severe) greens at Colwood, but I think the overall character and variety of the greens at Victoria wins over, too. 

Which is the better property for golf? Tough to say, depending what one's after. But, Colwood's much more spacious. Victoria's really too cramped, unfortunately. The routing at Colwood (basically unchanged since 1913) takes advantage of some great spots on that site - the 6th (!), 9th (!), 12th, 14th, and 18th (!) are excellent holes; really good. But, on a beautiful day, there are only a couple courses in Canada featuring anything comparable to playihg the seaside stretch between the 3rd and 10th holes at Victoria. The 2nd, 11th, 12th, 14th, and 18th holes at Victoria are pretty good, too (on the inland side of Beach Drive).

I really enjoy both courses for different reasons.
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Bill_McBride

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2012, 12:29:00 AM »
The really cool thing about Victoria and Colwood is that they are so different. Victoria is significantly shorter and quirkier. Colwood, for the most part, is right there in front of you by comparison - it's more of a 'standard' golf course, if that makes any sense.

I think because of some of the quirk (which some golfers don't like), Victoria features more memorable holes than Colwood - you just don't find holes like Victoria's 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th (back to back par 3s), and 14th (the second in Victoria's other set of consecutive one-shot holes) anywhere else in Canada. And, it's almost always windy at Victoria. So, I think there's a greater variety of shots to be played there as a result. There are some good (and unbelievably severe) greens at Colwood, but I think the overall character and variety of the greens at Victoria wins over, too. 

Which is the better property for golf? Tough to say, depending what one's after. But, Colwood's much more spacious. Victoria's really too cramped, unfortunately. The routing at Colwood (basically unchanged since 1913) takes advantage of some great spots on that site - the 6th (!), 9th (!), 12th, 14th, and 18th (!) are excellent holes; really good. But, on a beautiful day, there are only a couple courses in Canada featuring anything comparable to playihg the seaside stretch between the 3rd and 10th holes at Victoria. The 2nd, 11th, 12th, 14th, and 18th holes at Victoria are pretty good, too (on the inland side of Beach Drive).

I really enjoy both courses for different reasons.

That's a good summary, Jeff.  Colwood is such a solid course, but there are few holes as memorable to me as the waterfront holes at Victoria, a truly charming place. 

Will MacEwen

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada? New
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2012, 01:45:27 AM »
Jeff and Bill:  Having played each course once, I think that Colwood is the better course, but Victoria is the better experience on a one-off play.  

I was just in Victoria again today for hockey, and it is truly a beautiful city.  Living there and being a member at either club would be good living.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 09:25:15 AM by Will MacEwen »

cary lichtenstein

Re: Are there any truly great golf courses in Canada?
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2012, 06:52:48 AM »
Highland Links is the ONE.
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