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Carl Rogers

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What type of thread do you want on the site?
« on: October 18, 2012, 01:56:33 PM »
In response to the too many photo tour threads ...
I will start.

The tours are great but I would like to see a more detailed discussion of one or two holes on courses of note.   A million Merion threads, but I have only a modest grasp of only a few holes.

In the past, I have started threads on specific holes I know well on the course that I know well, Riverfront, an early Doak in Suffolk, VA.  I have discussed the 4th, 5th & 10th holes.

As winter is coming on and I do not golf in 40 deg weather, holes 13, 14 & 15 at Riverfront are by themselves thread worthy.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 02:04:23 PM »
Carl:

I suggest changing the title of this thread to "The 13th, 14th and 15th at Rivermont" and getting on it with it.

That is the thread I'd like to see.

Sven
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Ben Sims

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 02:06:41 PM »
Carl,

I find that I contribute the least when the quality of threads is such that I can't add much.  I can't remember a time when I've been more impressed with the docket of threads to read on page 1 than as I write this.  However, since your asking, I would like to see more threads on construction, agronomy and maintenance.  Mostly construction.  

Don't get me wrong, I love the brakes on my wife's car, enjoy using them, and like discussing what makes them good.  But I'm very excited to actually work on them with the parts I carefully ordered this weekend.  I hope that makes sense.  I feel the same about golf courses.  
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 02:23:02 PM »
How about this one?

Is putting really golf?
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Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 02:28:03 PM »
I think anything that increases our knowledge of golf, courses, clubs, designers etc is valuable. I can pick and choose what is of interest to me. On the whole, most threads tell me things about places I shall never see and that excites me. Equally, I love it when someone (usually Sean) gives me an insight into a course I know well from another perspective.

I particularly value the contributions made by professionals in the business: designers, constructors, supers etc. OK, most of their discussion will relevant to the USA/Canada, but some of it applies to the UK.

I absolutely hate threads filled with invective.

I'd love more information on golf courses in (to me) far flung countries from Japan to Chile, Finland to Greece.
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JMEvensky

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 02:35:54 PM »
Quote from: Mark_Rowlinson on October 18, 2012, 02:28:03 PM


I particularly value the contributions made by professionals in the business: designers, constructors, supers etc. 

I'd love more information on golf courses in (to me) far flung countries from Japan to Chile, Finland to Greece.



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Dan Kelly

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 03:18:42 PM »
I like the photo tours, if I've played the course.

I like to know that the photo tours of courses I haven't played are here, in case I ever get to play them -- but, as someone on that other thread said, the photo tours can't stand in for the experience and can't truly be appreciated until you've had the experience (or the provider of the photo tour works really hard to add the necessary words to the pictures).

I really like theoretical threads, about GCA generally and how it affects the playing of the game of golf (with specific allusions to actual courses).

I like threads that inspire poetry but not (in Rick Shefchik's immortal phrase) "beard-pulling."

I ignore all ranking threads.

I don't care a whit about threads dealing with bunker aesthetics.

I like threads without rancor.

I like threads where people actually have bothered to read what has already been written in that thread.

I like threads dominated by actual practitioners, rather than by people like me.

I like a lot of the OT threads. (Sorry, moderators!)

I prefer threads with titles that don't end in the middle of

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Jordan Caron

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 04:10:13 PM »
I'm a visual guy and don't really get into deep conversations about architecture like many on the site.

So I'm big on photo tours. Which makes me wonder, why there isn't a photo tour sub fourm?
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 04:49:45 PM »
I want Golf, Golf Architecture, Fun, Political, Nonsense, Banter, Access-seeking, Movies, Women, Booze, Food, Lodging, Travel, Environmental, Music, Art, Culture, et cetera, et cetera.

I.e., I want OT threads in a clearly defined OT area, nearly as much as I want to talk about contours, agronomy and the lightness of certain Architect's loafers.

I'm not going to get what I want though. As one of my favourite people has quothed oft here: "Golf, like life, is inherently unfair. Get used to it."

Otherwise it's all good.

F.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 05:53:28 PM »
I mostly like the nuts and bolts threads, particularly when well contributed to by professionals in the fields of turf science, construction, remodeling, designing and the GCA business.  I love the insiders telling us the back stories on various projects and explaining what they know that most don't consider about hot topics, whether from the club pro or owner perspective, etc.  I've bothered to read many of the primer books on most of these subjects years ago, and rarely actually go back and refer to them unless something really grabs my curiosity or rings incorrect about something.  I like photos, I like links to other relevant articles and I like accounts of buddy trips organized around participants here.

And, I like the OT and even political stuff, only in context that I enjoy the freedom of expressing myself, as I enjoy or even enjoy getting annoyed by opposite views.  I may get verbose or acerbic at times in some of my replies, but that is the world as we live in it.  I'm not about to retire from it when one point of view is flogged and repeated, if I have another.  I'll try to offer facts, and let the chips fall.  If the owner of the site wants to delete or censor me, I really give a hoot less.  I'm here because I generally like the folk, and what they have to say, on or off topic.  I respect most of them.  And, if I didn't like the atmosphere here, I will leave, or be booted, or lurk. 

It is a big world full of choices and issues, one of which most of us rally around, the choice to participate in GCA and its associated topics.  Play or go home... you aren't required to jump on every thread.  Enjoy and be happy for what it is as long as it is. 
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 05:59:08 PM »
What we get now.........those that interest get debate and those that don't soon disappear.

The Arble and Mayhugh photo tours in the UK are second to none.
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BCrosby

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 06:53:41 PM »
I agree
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BCrosby

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 06:54:13 PM »
with Dan's
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BCrosby

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 06:54:39 PM »
last point.
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BCrosby

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 06:55:22 PM »
Annoying?
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Ian Andrew

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 07:08:01 PM »
What would I like?

1.   Difficult decisions on restoration projects. What do you do when the answer is not obvious?  The 16th at Garden City was the greatest of all threads for me. But they never go that well anymore, illustrated by the Merion threads. It was the type of thread I went to read every day in the earliest years of the site.

2.   Concepts, from the out of the box stuff like Compression and Release through to the thought provoking ones like using only central hazards to deeper discussions on which version of a well-known concept works best AND WHY…
 
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Peter Pallotta

Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 09:13:31 PM »
Carl - I think we'd all be better off if posters started only those threads that really, really, really meant something to them: a pressing and informed question, a genuine and meaningful insight into some aspect of gca, a true and defensible (not just rhetorical or clever) pet peeve/bone of contention, a well-reasoned and fully articulated statement about gca principles/philosophies.  I'll be the first to say it: if I followed these guidelines myself, I would have started less than 10% of the threads I have, and would have posted on only about 1% of the threads I've posted on. I understand: we all want to participate and contribute, it's fun and can be done generously. But to be honest, most posts and most threads read to me now as if someone has put in all of about 30 seconds of thought, and I've grown tired of wading through content that is so flimsy (including, as I say, somewhere between 90%-99% of my own output).  What type of threads do i want? "Less -- a lot less".

Peter     
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Matthew Essig

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 09:37:22 PM »
It...
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Matthew Essig

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 09:37:38 PM »
Absolutely...
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Matthew Essig

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 09:37:50 PM »
Is...
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Matthew Essig

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2012, 09:38:17 PM »
Annoying!
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Mike_Young

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2012, 10:00:04 PM »
Quote from: PPallotta on October 18, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Carl - I think we'd all be better off if posters started only those threads that really, really, really meant something to them: a pressing and informed question, a genuine and meaningful insight into some aspect of gca, a true and defensible (not just rhetorical or clever) pet peeve/bone of contention, a well-reasoned and fully articulated statement about gca principles/philosophies.  I'll be the first to say it: if I followed these guidelines myself, I would have started less than 10% of the threads I have, and would have posted on only about 1% of the threads I've posted on. I understand: we all want to participate and contribute, it's fun and can be done generously. But to be honest, most posts and most threads read to me now as if someone has put in all of about 30 seconds of thought, and I've grown tired of wading through content that is so flimsy (including, as I say, somewhere between 90%-99% of my own output).  What type of threads do i want? "Less -- a lot less".

Peter     

I agree....
Also, I hope this doesn't sound obnoxious or pompous but over the years this site has allowed some to become "expert" on GCA when in reality they have been spouting pure BS.  I've listened to some pontificate and then when you play with them you realize they have zero idea what is going on.  Now I'm all for passion toward GCA and would encourage such but so often some of these threads take a life of their own with several spouting BS at each other and neither knows what is really happening yet it just grows.  The value of this site is in accuracy of facts and knowledge.  If it becomes so difficult to wade thru the fact from fiction it becomes too much of a hassle.  The main problem now is that there is not enough going on to generate the proper amount of interest and the threads become more and more OT...
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Jim Hoak

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Re: What type of thread do you want on the site?
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2012, 10:15:27 PM »
I like threads where I can learn something--from people who know a lot more than I.  What a good Green Comm. Chair should know, what a new course is like,  how an architect thinks about a recurring issue, etc.  What I don't want are people trying to impress us with how smart they are, threads that deteriorate into silly bickering, or positioning some obscure, mediocre course as a masterpiece because that is all the writer has seen.  I want to learn more, read less, and write even less still.  I promise to only write when I really feel that I have something worthwhile to contribute to the issue.
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