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Patrick_Mucci

Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« on: October 16, 2012, 05:17:58 PM »
Is it an expression of otherwise normal features, exagerated or blown out of proportion ?

JESII

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Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 05:23:16 PM »
Pat,

Somoene has logged into your computer and posted a complete thought as a thread title?

JESII

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Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 05:24:39 PM »
I think the answer is yes and no.

Some quirk is actually different than anything I've seen elsewhere. Royal New Kent #2 is a prime example. As is #2 at Huntingdon Valley's C-nine.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 07:35:12 PM »
Pat,

Somoene has logged into your computer and posted a complete thought as a thread title?

Jim,

It wouldn't be the first time  ;D


Tom_Doak

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Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 07:55:13 PM »
Is it an expression of otherwise normal features, exagerated or blown out of proportion ?

No.  Quirk is something unexpected.

I've seen those caricature-type features ... there are a couple of architects who seem to specialize in them.  Some people call them quirky, but I don't see that as the same sort of thing at all.  I see them as exaggerations to the point of disfigurement.  Caricature is the perfect word.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 08:28:27 PM »
Tom,

Don't those caricature like features often occur, naturally, where the architect chose to retain them, rather than alter them ?

Tom_Doak

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Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 08:40:51 PM »
Tom,

Don't those caricature like features often occur, naturally, where the architect chose to retain them, rather than alter them ?

Patrick:

Can you give an example?

I was thinking of the greens with six-foot tiers.  Most of those aren't natural at all.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 08:48:13 PM »
Tom,

Don't those caricature like features often occur, naturally, where the architect chose to retain them, rather than alter them ?

Patrick:

Can you give an example?

I was thinking of the greens with six-foot tiers.  Most of those aren't natural at all.

Tom,

I wasn't necessarily thinking about the green end.

The first thought I had were the "tube" fairways at Astoria and St George's.

Let me give some thought to the green end.


Peter Pallotta

Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 10:27:39 PM »
Pat - Just a side bar: it's ironic that our ability to appreciate quirk is in direct proportion to our knowledge of/experience with/affection for the normatives* of quality golf course architecture.

* I'm not sure that's an actual word.       

Adam Clayman

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Re: Is "Quirk" a caricature of what we normally expect ?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 12:45:02 PM »
Marion Hollins course in Aptos was choked full of quirk. Her three tier green was cool as all get out. Many of her holes were things you just don't see elsewhere. i.e. quirk.

Speaking of 6 ft green ridges. A buddy was just at The Prairie club. One of his playing partners is a 1 handi. He shot 69 on the Dunes and 97 on the Pines. The Pines is replete with the 6' tier.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

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