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Ed Homsey

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: 8th hole now up)
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2012, 12:15:53 PM »
That shot long and left of the 8th green really captures the interesting contours of that green.  Gotta post that on the Travis Society website.  Thanks for the pics, Joe.

Doug Braunsdorf

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: 8th hole now up)
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2012, 12:46:05 PM »
I was present to play the course as well.  I want credit for attending.  Me too! Me too!
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: 8th hole now up)
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2012, 01:37:58 PM »
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Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: 8th hole now up)
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2012, 01:44:22 PM »
I was present to play the course as well.  I want credit for attending.  Me too! Me too!

Doug, were you in the group behind us hitting those massive tee shots?

Mark
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: 8th hole now up)
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2012, 11:23:45 AM »
Stay in your lanes, guys!

After the 8th you cross back over the road to play the uphill 9th ending at the clubhouse.

#9.  Uphill par 4 (343 yards).

Tee view:



Approach view:



From just short of the green:



From left of the green:



#10.  Downhill par 4 (406 yards).

Tee view, where you can just barely see part of the green in the distance:



Approach shot view to another wonderful green:



From short of the green:



Nice view of the green taken from near the 11th green:



More tomorrow.
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Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-10 now up)
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2012, 11:53:33 AM »
I couldnt stop taking pictures of the 10th hole.  The green has some good tilt away from the fairway which is evident in the last picture.  One thing that's really cool is that you need to be very careful going after the back flags here.  Anything long will funnell all the way down into that creek.  I dropped a ball just off the back and it went into the water.  The green allows for the run up shot which is nice, and I love the way that a player must think twice about attacking a deep flag.

Another wonderful hole.. 

Mark
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-10 now up)
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2012, 12:16:28 PM »
I couldnt stop taking pictures of the 10th hole.  The green has some good tilt away from the fairway which is evident in the last picture.  One thing that's really cool is that you need to be very careful going after the back flags here.  Anything long will funnell all the way down into that creek.  I dropped a ball just off the back and it went into the water.  The green allows for the run up shot which is nice, and I love the way that a player must think twice about attacking a deep flag.

Another wonderful hole.. 

Mark

This pic of the 10th green taken from the 18th tee illustrates what Mark is talking about:

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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-10 now up)
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 02:16:51 PM »
#11.  Par 3 (161 yards).




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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-11 now up)
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2012, 12:55:49 PM »
Three more on this Friday afternoon.

#12.  Par 5 (483 yards).

Tee view:



2nd shot view:


From short of the green:



From just over the green:



#13.  Par 4 (382 yards).

Tee view:



Approach view:



From just over the green:



#14.  Dogleg-left par 5 (583 yards).

The 18th is a pretty good par 5, but I think I like this one even more.

Tee view:



A good drive and you can just typically see part of the flag on the green sitting down low:



A couple of views from short of the green:





Looking back up the hole from the back of the green:



More over the weekend, I hope!
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Alex Lagowitz

Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-14 now up)
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2012, 01:03:42 PM »
Im slightly confused by the bunker styles. 
Did travis ever flash the sand in the way that some of those bunkers are at CC of Scranton?
It seems more that this is the "augusta national" influence on the club...

Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-14 now up)
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2012, 01:07:19 PM »
14 is a neat hole because the player can get home in 2 if they can fly the ball to about 50 yards short of the green and get the forward kick from the speed slot in the last photo.  Still a tough two putt once you get on this green!

Mark
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Ed Homsey

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-14 now up)
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2012, 04:37:21 PM »
Flashed up greens typically were not Travis's style.  However, if you check out the bunkering that Travis did at Hollywood Golf Club in 1917, you will see rare examples of wildly flashed up bunkers by Travis.  I like the manner in which the CC of Scranton fairways wrap around the greens.  That style is consistent with Travis's original drawings at Scranton as well as at Cherry Hill Club, Stafford CC, CC of Troy and elsewhere.  However, I am puzzled by the connection that is made between this style and Australia, implying that Travis was influenced by what was going on in Australia.  From what I know of Travis, and the origins of his golf design ideas, that was not the case.  After leaving Australia in 1884, as a 23 year old, he returned just once, for a very brief business trip, long before golf was of any interest to him.  It was almost as if he had forsaken his Australian heritage; he became a naturalized U.S. Citizen in 1890.  In his several writings about golf course architecture, it was always the golf courses of Great Britain and Scotland that he turned to for inspiration.     

Robert Thompson

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-14 now up)
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »
That has more to do with Fazio and what the club wanted than what Travis did. Apparently some board knew better than Walter Travis, as is often the case at clubs.
Im slightly confused by the bunker styles. 
Did travis ever flash the sand in the way that some of those bunkers are at CC of Scranton?
It seems more that this is the "augusta national" influence on the club...
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-14 now up)
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2012, 04:12:06 PM »
Three more today and then I'll finish with the 18th hole tomorrow.

#15.  Par 4 (447 yards; No. 2 stroke hole).

Blind tee shot:



Approach view:



From right of the green:



From behind the green:



#16.  Downhill par 4 (476 yards).

Tee view (not from the tips):



Approach shot view:



From the mounding behind the green:



#17.  Par 3 (248 yards)

Tee view from 195 yard tees:



From just left of the green:



From over the green:

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John Shimony

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-17 now up)
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2012, 10:30:03 AM »
I love the liberal use of short grass around the greens.  I bet the course would have a completely different feel if they restored the Travis style bunkers given what I have seen in photos of some of his work.  A course's bunker style goes a long way in making a place feel special.  They can be in the exact same location but if they are uniquely shaped and presented they really add to the experience.  Some may think that is just dressing a course up without really adding any substance but I disagree.
John Shimony
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Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-17 now up)
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2012, 10:55:48 AM »
That shot of 17 is calendar material.

Mark
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Joe Bausch

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: holes 1-17 now up)
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2012, 11:12:19 AM »
Time to finish up this wonderful course.

#18.  Uphill par 5 (560 yards).

Tee view:



Second shot view:



Approach shot view:



From short of the green:



View of the green from the 10th tee:



From long and left of the green:



From just behind the green:



That's all folks.  I sure had fun.  Thanks to the pro Terry Hurst and their super Greg Boring for making this all possible.

If you wish to view the entire album of pictures, go here:

http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Scranton/index.html
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Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2012, 11:50:20 AM »
Thanks for the tour Joe.  I think this gives a great glance at the course.

Mark
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2012, 12:47:44 PM »
Thanks for the tour, Joe.  Really want to see this one for myself. 

Ed Homsey

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2012, 12:52:33 PM »
A terrific photo tour of a great golf course.  I particularly enjoyed those shots where you captured the intricate internal contours of those CC of Scranton greens.  I've posted a few on the Travis Society website.  Thanks, Joe.

Ed Homsey
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Bill Shotzbarger

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour)
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2012, 12:48:43 AM »


For anyone who wishes to unertake a 10-day Travis Tour across southern Ontario, NY and PA, I'd be happy to set up the party bus if we can get the border negotiations and accessibility issues resolved. We could hit Lookout Point, Cherry Hill, Stafford, Onondaga, Yahnundasis, Scranton, Troy, and three more down NYC way. Could be crazy fun!!!

Let me know when I should start filing the requisite petitions with the authorities!

Mark McKeever

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2012, 09:21:58 AM »
That could be an awesome trip!

Mark
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Ed Homsey

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2012, 11:51:43 AM »
It would be an awesome trip.

I might be of help in some of the accessibility negotiations.

Ed Homsey
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2012, 02:05:32 PM »
The presence of both the Fazio fingery bunkers and the ANGC-style ones is extremely jarring to me. There also seems to be little rhyme or reason as to those two styles' respective implementation. There are holed where there are ANGC-style bunkers by the greens and others where it's the standard Fazio style. Very, very odd to me. That said, the greens look so cool that it's not hard to look past the bunkers, which for their inconsistency of look are far from eyesores anyway.

Cool-looking golf course. Thanks for the tour, all.
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Bill Shotzbarger

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Re: Wicked Travis greens: CC of Scranton (a photo tour: all holes up)
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2012, 11:20:57 PM »
The presence of both the Fazio fingery bunkers and the ANGC-style ones is extremely jarring to me. There also seems to be little rhyme or reason as to those two styles' respective implementation. There are holed where there are ANGC-style bunkers by the greens and others where it's the standard Fazio style. Very, very odd to me. That said, the greens look so cool that it's not hard to look past the bunkers, which for their inconsistency of look are far from eyesores anyway.


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